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Trita Parsi

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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

And it will not be like before.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

They were not going to go into a scenario in which the Israelis slowly but surely, constantly increase the type of, I mean, Gaza or a Lebanese scenario in which the Israelis gradually increase their attacks on Lebanon or on Gaza while the ceasefire is still in place.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

They will not accept that.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

So it's

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

slightest thing from the Israelis, the Iranians are going to strike back very, very hard.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

Then the question is, if the war between Israel and Iran resumes, first of all, can the Israelis manage that without the United States being involved?

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

I have my severe doubts about that, both from a military standpoint, from an intelligence standpoint, the amount of help the Israelis need, but also from a public opinion standpoint.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

Will the Israeli public go along with

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

further war with Iran, in which they do take a lot of hits themselves, but without the US being part of the war.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

And I think that can change dramatically.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

It could also create a scenario in which the Israelis will, of course, do their outmost to get the U.S.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

back into the war.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

And that will be a real test.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

If Trump has managed to pull out of this war, cuts his losses on the straits, but then goes back in because the Israelis want it, again, I have a hard time seeing that happening.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

But then again, I was wrong about him going into this war in the first place because it was so utterly clear in my view that it would be a disaster, yet he did it.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

But you can also see a scenario in which the US doesn't go back in and then the Iranians have managed to achieve something else, which is they have truly separated the US from Israel.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

That would be a huge strategic win for the Iranians, which may be part of the reason why the Israelis actually won't go into the war again with the Iranians, knowing very well that that might be an outcome from that move.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

So first of all, as you said, we have to take all of these different intelligence reports leaking to media without much scrutiny, with a pinch of salt.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

But I think also we have to take the definition of China helping Iran somewhat carefully.

Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
4/13/26: Trump Blockades Hormuz Strait, Negotiations Break Down, Gas Prices Spike

For the Chinese to continue to sell stuff to Iran, including chemical things, is not from the Chinese perspective in any way, shape or form, them actually helping Iran in the war.