Troy Baker

There are these wonderful moments in episodes like this where I have two shows that I'm watching. One is the episode on the screen, and the other is the episode that's happening on the couch next to me with my wife, who is covering herself with...

There are these wonderful moments in episodes like this where I have two shows that I'm watching. One is the episode on the screen, and the other is the episode that's happening on the couch next to me with my wife, who is covering herself with...

pillow because it's so intense now i know you guys i know how much you just enjoy what will end up being torture for the audience how much fun was this to think up and then also execute i can't imagine

pillow because it's so intense now i know you guys i know how much you just enjoy what will end up being torture for the audience how much fun was this to think up and then also execute i can't imagine

Well, for what it's worth, it really paid off on screen. Neil, how was it watching for you, just being able to see this scene play out now on a different medium, a different screen?

Well, for what it's worth, it really paid off on screen. Neil, how was it watching for you, just being able to see this scene play out now on a different medium, a different screen?

Do you feel like it would have been pulled off without meeting after meeting after meeting?

Do you feel like it would have been pulled off without meeting after meeting after meeting?

One of the things that stands out to me is not only is it, of course, obviously, it pays off to do these big, huge set pieces with all this action, but to also infuse and inject an incredible plot moment with now revealing this is where Dina gets to see Ellie is not only getting bit, she's using that almost as... As a defense, it's almost as a shield, and she's willfully letting someone bite her.

One of the things that stands out to me is not only is it, of course, obviously, it pays off to do these big, huge set pieces with all this action, but to also infuse and inject an incredible plot moment with now revealing this is where Dina gets to see Ellie is not only getting bit, she's using that almost as... As a defense, it's almost as a shield, and she's willfully letting someone bite her.

Dina is now faced with the decision. She knows that Ellie's been bit, and she knows what she has to do next.

Dina is now faced with the decision. She knows that Ellie's been bit, and she knows what she has to do next.

We end the episode with all cards on the table, on the rooftop, with explosions in the distance. And things are different now. We have to make a decision. Do we go back or do we go on? Let's talk about the decision that Dina makes.

We end the episode with all cards on the table, on the rooftop, with explosions in the distance. And things are different now. We have to make a decision. Do we go back or do we go on? Let's talk about the decision that Dina makes.

Well, with the war zone on the horizon and the stakes raised, that's where we will leave this episode. Thank you both for joining me here again today. Thank you. Thank you, Troy. Thank you. This has been the official podcast for the HBO original series, The Last of Us. Our senior producer is Emmanuel Hapsis, our producer is Elliot Adler, and Darby Maloney is the editor.

Well, with the war zone on the horizon and the stakes raised, that's where we will leave this episode. Thank you both for joining me here again today. Thank you. Thank you, Troy. Thank you. This has been the official podcast for the HBO original series, The Last of Us. Our senior producer is Emmanuel Hapsis, our producer is Elliot Adler, and Darby Maloney is the editor.

This episode was mixed by Raj Makija. Our executive producers are Gabrielle Lewis and Barry Finkel. Special thanks to Becky Rowe, Alison Cohen, Aaron Kelly, and Kenya Reyes from the Max podcast team. Production music is courtesy of HBO, and you can watch episodes of The Last of Us on Max. Make sure to join us next week as we talk through episode five of season two.

This episode was mixed by Raj Makija. Our executive producers are Gabrielle Lewis and Barry Finkel. Special thanks to Becky Rowe, Alison Cohen, Aaron Kelly, and Kenya Reyes from the Max podcast team. Production music is courtesy of HBO, and you can watch episodes of The Last of Us on Max. Make sure to join us next week as we talk through episode five of season two.

Until then, no matter what, you keep finding something to fight for.

Until then, no matter what, you keep finding something to fight for.