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And it was this crappy gig that we had in Coffeyville, Kansas.

It could have been that bad, but it was more like that.

But it was worse than that because it was more like it was the Watch Paint Dry show, you know, where everybody there... Like, if we'd walked out with tracks of us playing a Garth Brooks cover, we would have been a huge hit.

Right.

Which the six-year-old that went on before us did do terribly and was a huge hit.

Right.

But being seen by this A&R guy, Steve Greenberg, who we continue to have a relationship with over years...

He saw us playing on the back of this tractor trailer stage, full of that stage.

Yeah, exactly.

Ended up getting signed by Mercury and went to make a record the following summer.

The next year.

We made the record in 96 and it released early into 97.

Yeah.

As that year went on, spring of 97 was when Umbop was really released.

The thing that's interesting is I really think that the sort of blind confidence is a good phrase for us at the time because we really never got into this to be successful as kids particularly.

We were just, that's before, that's our friend's wedding.

Like, you know, as little kids.

We didn't get into this thinking like, you know, we're really cute right now.

We could really make a buck, you know.

We just were so young and we could do it and we were really ambitious.