Troy Hudson
Appearances
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Episode 107: The Expedition
My name is Troy Hudson, formerly an investigator with the BFRO. Currently one of the founders of the Native Oklahoma Bigfoot Research Organization right here in southeast Oklahoma. Been involved actually going on 20 years.
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Episode 107: The Expedition
In those days, I had joined the BFRO in 2004, and I covered all of Oklahoma, Texas, and Arkansas. And I was running the expeditions for BFRO in Texas and Oklahoma and Arkansas, and that's how I met Jerry. And that's kind of how they typically recruit their investigators like we do in our organization now is people attend the field expeditions, and we kind of get to see how they –
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how they are in the woods, how they handle themselves. And are they pretty good as, you know, being analytical and being, making a good investigator and Jerry coming with his military background was a no brainer of asking him to become an investigator. And Jerry, I think if I recall this right, Jerry's the one who actually took this report or initiated the report from the flats.
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Jerry reached out to me, and at that time, I had done quite a few investigations in the East Texas, Arklatex area.
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This one... Being the location, being that part of East Texas, I mean, there's never a wonder, you know, if this is what they saw because that is a very high traffic area and a lot of activity along that Arc La Tex corridor. they allowed us to stay on the property overnight.
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And that was a, I will say that was a very memorable cause I remember everything that happened and that night was pretty more memorable because there was some close proximity events that happened.
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My opinion is we kind of caught them off guard. Because if you take it from their side, if you kind of take it from their point of view, there's not very many times I'm sure they hear their own calls being made back to them and not know who that is. And just my opinion, we kind of caught them off guard because they came to figure out what in the world was going on, and they came in big time.
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And I think we got lucky on that at that time because their responses, and sometimes when you go into a new location, three out of five times, I'm pretty sure, stuff like this kind of happens. I'd say three out of five.
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But I think this particular incident, we just kind of caught them off guard and they were trying to figure out who is that and why are they making our sounds and what are they doing? So that's just my opinion.
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Episode 107: The Expedition
Well, you know, a lot of the properties, as long as there's tree cover, there's an area, you know, before we go to the location, we're going to look at, you know, aerial maps. You know, we look at satellite imagery and we look at the map topography and everything. And as long as they have a route to go and they can stay under cover and concealment and they have an avenue to escape. water.
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What's interesting in Texas and Oklahoma is we have a lot of properties where there is now, not in this particular case, because I think if I remember right, this was a roadside, the girls, the girl was in a car with some of the kids and they saw one cross in front of them.
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But typically ranches and remote, I say remote, rural homes, farms and stuff have a lot of activity and right there on the property. And that property was no different than some of the others. What
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people refer to as a habituation site where they, either the homeowner or there's someone on the property that sees them on a continuous basis, either it can be weekly, it could be monthly, it could be biannually. I mean, it's, it's, the property was pretty typical and peri-stereotype, I guess, that we didn't really need to know much more other than we're going to spend the night and see what's
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I mean, Jerry and I knew what was going on, you know, kids, teenagers, sometimes the way they explain things a little different than adults when they have, you know, eyewitness accounts, but we were just, you know, we just were excited to spend the night and we had no idea what was going to happen, but it turned out to be a great trip.
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So typically when we visit or when I visit a property, we kind of go through just the basics and kind of one of the things you look for when you go to a property is you look for signs, um, other than what the eyewitnesses or the homeowner or the, or the landowner is explained what they've heard, what they've heard, what they've heard, what they've seen. Stick structures, um,
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are typically a sign that we look for, but they have to be taken in consideration the location of where it's at and in the manner in which they are found. And then you have to examine, because down here in Oklahoma and Texas, we have in the past a lot of ice storms. So when we have a lot of wind, we have a lot of wind storms, we have tornadoes, we have things that can turn, twist, bend trees.
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So having a little bit of knowledge of how that works with weather relation to how things are done with trees. When something with hands manipulates a tree or a branch or a sapling or whatever it may be, it's quite obvious because when you've looked at hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them, and in my job, I do a lot of severe weather related in my activity. So
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I kind of know what to look for when it's wind damage or did something actually do this. Arches, Xs, tree bends, tree breaks, tree snaps. I mean, they all kind of, you take them in consideration. Now, my opinion is you could not go into court of law and prove that Bigfoot twisted that tree or bent that tree over.
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It's just an item that we pay attention to that they are related and associated with activity issues. that's associated with them being in the area. So it's just, you know, it's just like a lot of it, you can't really prove it, but it does make things a little easier if you can go to a property and don't find any type of physical signs, not much going on.
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And then you go to a property, when you start finding things like this and you have a night like we did, it just, it all kind of, it's pieces of the puzzle. What about the beard aspect? When they're older, That was kind of the beginning of myself learning about their physical makeup because I had a property I was working in in North Texas.
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Worked it for almost five years and had the great opportunity to see the ones that roamed around and kind of came around that property, as well as working with another gentleman in BFRO that was working the Kentucky project, Adrian Erickson project. And that was working coincide with my Texas project and got to see a lot of the videos.
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And over the period of time, also working with tribal elders and tribal communities that have a lot of knowledge and some of the things going on. And they're not much different than us to a degree. So facial, the beard though, as I think she referred to as a Fu Manchu style type, if I remember her saying that, that's a little bit unique because we don't ever hear that too much.
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It has been said that people have seen them with that style of facial hair. Going in with that though is what I know now compared to what I know then is To a lot of tribal communities and to some other people, they're referred to, that would be an elder. That would be an elder of their particular tribe because we refer to them as a tribe of people. They walk upright. They have a language.
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They have children. So what else are you going to call them? They live outside of us. They live. They're non-materialistic. They don't need the things we do, but they walk upright.
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So I have my law enforcement side, which brings the scientific evidential value of investigating. But I also have my native side, which So I kind of walk in two different worlds. The first one, we'll say with the scientific side of it, when I first got into this, I had no clue, no clue.
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When I first saw the ones there at the property there in North Texas, one thing I knew instantly is they were extremely fast, and there's no way you're going to catch one. Their physical ability is beyond comprehension.
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The things I saw them do go from laying on the ground when you come around the corner of one of the outlined buildings there on the property, and it goes from basically almost a push-up position to a dead run without – I mean you're just standing there with your mouth open just like, well, okay. They can stand right in front of you. You can't even see them.
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They're there and then they're not there. They can speak. They have their own language. Scott Nelson has studied their language. He's been a speaker at our conference in Honobi for years. They obviously have a language. They can speak. There's things that they can do. They have their own family hierarchy. You know, they discipline their children. There's some regional differences.
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A lot of people always... kind of say, oh, your Bigfoot's down there in Texas and Louisiana. They're aggressive. And we're like, what do you mean? What do you mean by aggressive? We're like, oh, they throw rocks and ground at you. I'm like, well, that's normal behavior. What were you doing that got rocks thrown at you? Because they throw rocks at us all the time, but it ain't a big deal.
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I mean, we say, hey, you missed or something like that. I mean, they're flesh and blood. And if they are the way the DNA is and they are descendants – from that time period, then there are spiritual aspects about them that we cannot even remotely comprehend. Because this would be like peeling an onion. Because you get into the physical side.
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I mean, we talk to a lot of people that have eyewitnesses that have seen them. We can talk to them at that level because they saw one. They, you know, hey, I had arms, legs, I ran, I went across the fence, never even jumped the fence, it just went. There's so much about them that is incomprehensible. People don't know what to think about them. People, they're in fear.
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There's been a lot of times we've had incidences where it almost became violent from the landowner because they did not know what they were dealing with because they had their own children. And there's been bloodshed in the past.
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And we have worked with quite a few different landowners where we've prevented that scenario because it was going that direction because a lot of people don't understand what they're dealing with. Like Jerry said, sometimes they just want to be left alone. But if they're coming to your property and they're coming to see what's going on, and a lot of times it starts with the kids.
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It starts with the children at the property because they're the first ones seeing them because the Bigfoots are kind of whatever they're doing, but somehow they just don't. make a big deal about the children seeing them. And then eventually the adults living there see them. So it can snowball quickly. So, I mean, this goes on a lot more than what people think. And I would say out of probably...
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three or four of locations that are similar to that there's probably another five or six that we don't know about because they don't know a lot of people don't know who to reach out to they don't know who and they may not want to say anything to nobody because they're going to feel like they're they're being crazy or they just want a bunch of people at their house trying to see what's going on so there's many factors a reason why a lot of this does not get reported
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Episode 107: The Expedition
So on our Facebook page, the Native Oklahoma Bigfoot Research Organization, and as well as our website, the Native Oklahoma Bigfoot Research Organization. Now we... Typically work the Oklahoma area, but like Jerry and myself and a couple others, we still live on the North Texas side of the river.
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So it's not just that, but we spend most of our time on the Oklahoma side since we work a lot on the tribal lands, tribal and non-tribal lands. So most of all of our investigators are on the Oklahoma side.