Tucker Carlson

The fact we spent hundreds of billions on a fruitless war that diminished us.

It's not even about that.

It's bigger than that.

Coming out of this, we have to demand, regardless of party or even ideology, leaders who have a gut level love and concern for the American people.

That is the test.

That's the acid test for holding office in the United States.

You have to care.

We can probably devise ways to measure whether you care.

But if you don't care...

You're going to have to join the neocons in doing something else.

So that's what we've learned so far for where we're going and whether this ceasefire, assuming it even is a ceasefire, will hold.

We want to talk to someone called Alistair Crooks, who is not famous in American media by and large, but is outside the United States, I think, regarded as one of the most experienced and wisest observers, mostly non-aligned observers, of what's happening in the world, particularly in the Middle East.

He spent most of his career as a British diplomat, intelligence officer.

It's not endorsement of British intelligence, which has been much discredited.

in the last 25 or 30 years, but certainly one of the most knowledgeable governments for most of its existence.

I mean, they managed the world and they sent people out into the world who really understood how things worked at a granular level, not just a 40,000 foot level, but understood the languages and the cultures and the geography of the nations that they were trying to influence.

So he has spent his entire life outside his own country and has actually personally negotiated ceasefires in the Middle East and knows it very, very well, lived for years in Beirut.

And so we asked him, where do you think this is going?

Here's the conversation.

Mr. Druck, thank you very much for joining us.