Tucker Carlson

I mean, much more than the average person, you spent your life around death and suffering and human drama.

I mean, you're a cancer surgeon.

So presumably you've got a higher tolerance for this than most people.

I mean, obviously you do.

But what effect did it have on you seeing this?

Were these mostly Western doctors?

But you get back to the U.K.,

And almost, not entirely, but almost your entire media is conspiring to hide the truth of what's happening in Gaza and attacking anyone who calls attention to it.

How do you feel about that?

There are also people who've defended it flat out.

Certainly here in the United States, there are many people in our media who...

basically just attack anyone who points out what's happening and slander them as haters and Nazis.

What do you think of that?

I'll never forget, maybe 10 years ago, you had this head of the Labour Party,

who was an old leftist, all kind of pro-Soviet leftist.

I didn't have much in common with him.

I never really thought about him.

But the one issue on which he was kind of different from the people who paid for the party was on Israel.

he was skeptical of british support for the state of israel and i've never seen a man slandered like he was slandered again it's not my role to defend him i'm not british and i'm not you know an old leftist but that guy was basically driven out of public life

And after that happened, the Labour Party just kind of swung into alignment with the Conservatives and with reform.