Tulsi Gabbard

And I remember this woman, I forget what outlet she was with, one of the main ones, and she was trying to justify that to me.

She was saying, well, Congresswoman, don't you think that sometimes you have to work with people who you don't like?

in order to accomplish your objective.

And I just remember looking at her, I'm saying, so you are justifying us providing money and weapons to the very exact same terrorist group that attacked us on 9-11?

You think there's justification for that?

And she's like, oh, well, you know, I mean, I just, you know, some people might say, well, you know, I was just like, give me a break.

What planet are— Yeah, and it's not, okay, well, these guys are, you know, drug runners or, you know, they've got, like, running diamonds in the black market.

I mean, you know, this is not—these are not, like, hoodlums in the neighborhood that they're talking about here.

I'm all about the direct approach, man.

I mean, no is the answer.

You know, I wouldn't doubt that there are some nefarious intents by some people or intentions by some people.

But I think that there are any kind of clarity that a normal person would have in looking at this situation.

Like any normal common sense person, you don't have to have served in the military to get this.

You don't have to have some degree in foreign policy and geopolitics to understand how insane this is.

And it seems like their judgment and the normal clarity that should be there is clouded by arrogance and this idea that, well, just because we say this is what the outcome will be, that's what it will be.

There are so many different examples of—and I actually asked, I questioned then Secretary Mattis, and this was a few years later, obviously, but I questioned because this was continuing on.

And I asked him in an open hearing in the Armed Services Committee—

Why aren't we going after Al-Qaeda in Syria, Al-Qaeda and ISIS in Syria?

Because the focus was on regime change, not on defeating Islamist terrorism at that time.

And his answer was, it's complicated.