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Tyler Cowen

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365 total appearances

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Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

No, I was using it before the R1 update came out. But I'm in a lot of chat groups. And if there's something new in the world of AI, odds are I'm going to hear about it. So I was just playing around with it. And it was so much fun. I kept on going.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

Well, it will take on any personality you tell it to, which is part of the fun. But the default is simply that it's charming. It's more poetic. It writes better fiction, probably, than the American models. It's just a whole different vibe, you could say.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

Well, it will take on any personality you tell it to, which is part of the fun. But the default is simply that it's charming. It's more poetic. It writes better fiction, probably, than the American models. It's just a whole different vibe, you could say.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

Well, it will take on any personality you tell it to, which is part of the fun. But the default is simply that it's charming. It's more poetic. It writes better fiction, probably, than the American models. It's just a whole different vibe, you could say.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

Now, if you try to ask it questions about Chinese politics, Tiananmen Square, the Uyghurs, it either A, won't answer, or sometimes it starts to answer A, And then the cursor starts moving backwards and it erases whatever it wrote down. And a very literal act of Orwellian censorship.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

Now, if you try to ask it questions about Chinese politics, Tiananmen Square, the Uyghurs, it either A, won't answer, or sometimes it starts to answer A, And then the cursor starts moving backwards and it erases whatever it wrote down. And a very literal act of Orwellian censorship.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

Now, if you try to ask it questions about Chinese politics, Tiananmen Square, the Uyghurs, it either A, won't answer, or sometimes it starts to answer A, And then the cursor starts moving backwards and it erases whatever it wrote down. And a very literal act of Orwellian censorship.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

That's mostly not true. So it may be the case that the final training cost was very, very low. But you incur a lot of other costs in building the model. For instance, the company had 150 people working full time trying to develop the model. And their salaries and all of the fixed costs of the enterprise are not included in that sum.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

That's mostly not true. So it may be the case that the final training cost was very, very low. But you incur a lot of other costs in building the model. For instance, the company had 150 people working full time trying to develop the model. And their salaries and all of the fixed costs of the enterprise are not included in that sum.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

That's mostly not true. So it may be the case that the final training cost was very, very low. But you incur a lot of other costs in building the model. For instance, the company had 150 people working full time trying to develop the model. And their salaries and all of the fixed costs of the enterprise are not included in that sum.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

Now, it's still probably the case that their model is considerably cheaper. And some of that is that wages in China are lower. But they also had a number of innovations that just enabled the model to be done for a lower cost. So it is a breakthrough. But we will borrow from what they did, just as they have been borrowing from what we've done.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

Now, it's still probably the case that their model is considerably cheaper. And some of that is that wages in China are lower. But they also had a number of innovations that just enabled the model to be done for a lower cost. So it is a breakthrough. But we will borrow from what they did, just as they have been borrowing from what we've done.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

Now, it's still probably the case that their model is considerably cheaper. And some of that is that wages in China are lower. But they also had a number of innovations that just enabled the model to be done for a lower cost. So it is a breakthrough. But we will borrow from what they did, just as they have been borrowing from what we've done.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

And keep in mind, the best products today are still the OpenAI products. and anthropics clawed, and those probably have what you would call a clearer path to the basket of making yet further improvements. So it has not surpassed us, no.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

And keep in mind, the best products today are still the OpenAI products. and anthropics clawed, and those probably have what you would call a clearer path to the basket of making yet further improvements. So it has not surpassed us, no.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

And keep in mind, the best products today are still the OpenAI products. and anthropics clawed, and those probably have what you would call a clearer path to the basket of making yet further improvements. So it has not surpassed us, no.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

I think it's a bigger breakthrough than that. They had numerous algorithmic improvements. One estimate is that the cost of what they did is about 30x lower. Now, we don't know as to what chips they had, but we do know that before chip restrictions were placed on China, the company bought some very high-quality chips that are almost as good as the ones that are now banned from China.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

I think it's a bigger breakthrough than that. They had numerous algorithmic improvements. One estimate is that the cost of what they did is about 30x lower. Now, we don't know as to what chips they had, but we do know that before chip restrictions were placed on China, the company bought some very high-quality chips that are almost as good as the ones that are now banned from China.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

I think it's a bigger breakthrough than that. They had numerous algorithmic improvements. One estimate is that the cost of what they did is about 30x lower. Now, we don't know as to what chips they had, but we do know that before chip restrictions were placed on China, the company bought some very high-quality chips that are almost as good as the ones that are now banned from China.

Honestly with Bari Weiss
Can America Win the AI War with China?

So I think they certainly could have done what they did without illegally acquiring chips. But whether or not they did, I would just say we don't know.