Tyler Tringas

And we were just like, we just need to fund this thing to get it off the ground.

And so the binding constraint for the business was like my personal runway.

You know, I was living in New York.

It's a very expensive place.

And I had brought some savings with me and I was doing some side consulting.

Well, I mean, my rent was probably...

1200 1500 a month.

So I mean, I was probably burning like three grand a month living very, very, you know, leanly.

But you know, it's one of those things where often in like a catch 22, where, you know, some VCs say they want to meet you out in San Francisco, okay, do I go spend the money to fly out there and the hotel and the rental car and all that sort of stuff, you know,

um, to take that chance or not, which I did, you know, I was like burning through frequent flyer miles to like fly my co-founder and I out to Palo Alto to go.

And, you know, we had like my combinator, but you know, interview, and then we had other VCs who wanted to meet us.

We were staying in this, like we stayed in this thing called a hacker hostel, which was this like

awful awful hostel in Soma for like 50 bucks a night just like a you know just dingy disgusting place so yeah I mean we were just we were trying to be scrappy but at the same time we're just burning through cash you know for for over two years and so

Eventually, it was like I was basically running on fumes, running on credit cards, that sort of thing.

And I had learned enough code to sort of be dangerous.

And so I was moonlighting.

So I was working maybe 20 hours a week on Upwork, just finding random gigs as a software developer, even though I would have

other people who would build our actual product.

And so I was doing that to just kind of extend my personal runway, you know, sort of thing.

I would work 40 hours on Zorlist, 20 hours on that.