Umang Shah
👤 PersonAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
I remember sitting on her couch and asking her, is this real? Is this real? Is this real?
I remember sitting on her couch and asking her, is this real? Is this real? Is this real?
I remember sitting on her couch and asking her, is this real? Is this real? Is this real?
They were just like, holy cow, everything was so extravagant. There were, you know, these performers and this huge venue and just, it was very extravagant.
They were just like, holy cow, everything was so extravagant. There were, you know, these performers and this huge venue and just, it was very extravagant.
They were just like, holy cow, everything was so extravagant. There were, you know, these performers and this huge venue and just, it was very extravagant.
I had just left a full-time job and the last thing I wanted was a full-time job, yet he was good enough to convince me to take on a full-time job. But Josh is quite good at selling. Umang did notice how extravagant everything was. We would go out on sales calls. We'd often either fly first class or we would take a private jet. Josh insisted on kind of compensating
I had just left a full-time job and the last thing I wanted was a full-time job, yet he was good enough to convince me to take on a full-time job. But Josh is quite good at selling. Umang did notice how extravagant everything was. We would go out on sales calls. We'd often either fly first class or we would take a private jet. Josh insisted on kind of compensating
I had just left a full-time job and the last thing I wanted was a full-time job, yet he was good enough to convince me to take on a full-time job. But Josh is quite good at selling. Umang did notice how extravagant everything was. We would go out on sales calls. We'd often either fly first class or we would take a private jet. Josh insisted on kind of compensating
people very much more with salaries and less with equity, which is kind of the opposite of most startups. And so most of the people were paid a kind of a reasonable market rate.
people very much more with salaries and less with equity, which is kind of the opposite of most startups. And so most of the people were paid a kind of a reasonable market rate.
people very much more with salaries and less with equity, which is kind of the opposite of most startups. And so most of the people were paid a kind of a reasonable market rate.
I consider myself to be a fairly logical person. maybe even smart person. And I could not always understand how the math worked out. Like, how did, you know, how did we get paid? How did we do all that?
I consider myself to be a fairly logical person. maybe even smart person. And I could not always understand how the math worked out. Like, how did, you know, how did we get paid? How did we do all that?
I consider myself to be a fairly logical person. maybe even smart person. And I could not always understand how the math worked out. Like, how did, you know, how did we get paid? How did we do all that?
But over time, the weirdness added up. I remember for certain investor pitches or sales pitches, I would lay out an interesting way to present the information and the facts to show growth numbers, right? Hey, look, we saw growth month over month at this rate, which is great for a startup. You're tracking on a higher frequency. He would often kind of encourage us to exaggerate that even more.
But over time, the weirdness added up. I remember for certain investor pitches or sales pitches, I would lay out an interesting way to present the information and the facts to show growth numbers, right? Hey, look, we saw growth month over month at this rate, which is great for a startup. You're tracking on a higher frequency. He would often kind of encourage us to exaggerate that even more.
But over time, the weirdness added up. I remember for certain investor pitches or sales pitches, I would lay out an interesting way to present the information and the facts to show growth numbers, right? Hey, look, we saw growth month over month at this rate, which is great for a startup. You're tracking on a higher frequency. He would often kind of encourage us to exaggerate that even more.
And so maybe inflate a number, maybe, you know, like position it like outside of the facts. And so, you know, I think that was my first sign of, wait a minute, I don't know if I love that. I don't think I really feel great about that. But in the end, the checks were clearing. During my time there, I always got paid eventually.
And so maybe inflate a number, maybe, you know, like position it like outside of the facts. And so, you know, I think that was my first sign of, wait a minute, I don't know if I love that. I don't think I really feel great about that. But in the end, the checks were clearing. During my time there, I always got paid eventually.