Una McKevitt

fiercely independent in a kind of a reaction to her mother abandoning her also owns her own home now she as she says she has to rent it yeah she has a lodger but everyone's sort of in that position so no I do love the description though she's like I have to rent a room to a lodger and her boyfriend is always there so basically I feel like it's their home and I'm intruding because that is I think so many people's situations yeah definitely

and so it all becomes about like why the mother is called Sandra like what is what is this bee in her bonnet like why does she care so much she talks about being humiliated being leapfrogged over and she goes to all and she's desperately trying to get Ciara

through, well, not desperately, through quite a lot of intimidation and threats to, you know, not sell the house and recalibrate, as she calls it.

So it becomes a battle between Ciara and Dara versus Sandra, really, over how to just, you know, as Dara says, you know, she always had megalomaniacal tendencies, but success has really turbocharged them.

Mm-hmm.

So I do, I'm also interested in power, how people with power within families operate.

You know, when somebody has a lot more money than everybody else, how that changes the landscape.

So I'm exploring that quite a bit through the Sandra character.

Yeah.

And just the fact that all that really matters to her is winning.

Yeah.

So the house is irrelevant to her, but she feels that decisions were made that didn't center her.

And so every time she's not centered, she essentially feels like she doesn't exist.

I liked, I like riding maniacs.

Yeah.

Yeah, I do.

Where does that come from?

I don't know.

I mean, they're, I think, I mean, we're all under, we're all under like pressures from the moment we're born.

We're like our, our.