Unknown (Guest / Erin Hawley)

And that is a ton of burden on a nonprofit, which seems to be part of the point.

So there's certainly a major political force that I think we need to shed light and truth that every child matters is inherently valuable to God and to society.

But I would urge your listeners, if they happen, to look at the New York Times report.

Really, it's an expose on Planned Parenthood.

It talks about the terrible conditions, not only for women who are coming for abortions, bad health care, bad decision making.

but also for the employees, just an organization that is not well run.

I think we are seeing momentum building.

If you think about the Supreme Court's term last year, there was a monumental win for parental rights in a case called Mahmood.

That case could have come out really narrowly.

But instead, the court really said that you need to have an opt out school if you are going to teach things that are contrary to religious beliefs.

And so that was a great win for parents.

We saw another win in an ADF case called Medina that states are allowed to defund Planned Parenthood.

They can choose other health care centers that provide actual health care instead of mainly abortion.

And then in this latest series of cases on APR, we have one of the Second Circuit, one of the Ninth.

We just won the Second Circuit yesterday.

And so it seems to be the sort of recognition that even if you dislike pregnancy care centers, you can't harass them with subpoenas.

You can't sue them to stop them from speaking really basic constitutional rights.

But it seems to be taking courts to step in and police those boundaries.

Thanks for having me.