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I wanted to send a message to the people involved in this assault, to the people who think that it's okay to propagate sexual violence and racial violence and class violence. There are not just legal consequences for these actions.
I wanted to send a message to the people involved in this assault, to the people who think that it's okay to propagate sexual violence and racial violence and class violence. There are not just legal consequences for these actions.
There are community consequences and the people that are here today are members of your community and we will be here tomorrow and into perpetuity protecting each other and taking care of each other. The community consequences for this action I guarantee you will range far beyond the legal consequences that you will face.
There are community consequences and the people that are here today are members of your community and we will be here tomorrow and into perpetuity protecting each other and taking care of each other. The community consequences for this action I guarantee you will range far beyond the legal consequences that you will face.
I mean, I love this old black and white and we do a lot of that around my house, but I also just like a laugh and there's nothing funnier than, you know, when you've got a family and everything that goes wrong can go wrong. And it's just like life as a dad, as I found it within a family, when you're hosting Christmas, like something's going wrong and it's a calamity of errors.
I mean, I love this old black and white and we do a lot of that around my house, but I also just like a laugh and there's nothing funnier than, you know, when you've got a family and everything that goes wrong can go wrong. And it's just like life as a dad, as I found it within a family, when you're hosting Christmas, like something's going wrong and it's a calamity of errors.
So Christmas Vacation is my movie, right? And Chevy Chase.
So Christmas Vacation is my movie, right? And Chevy Chase.
We have something. Stand by.
We have something. Stand by.
Classicals. And it's just like so relatable to me. You know, it's like he has all these like finally just lost it. That's it. I just love that movie.
Classicals. And it's just like so relatable to me. You know, it's like he has all these like finally just lost it. That's it. I just love that movie.
No, no, I want an officer right under cover, and I shoot you in the chair with my laser rifle.
No, no, I want an officer right under cover, and I shoot you in the chair with my laser rifle.
Once again, you have Santa laying down the law. That is my favorite Christmas movie. Yeah, it's a Christmas story. I've been watching it basically every year since the 80s. And one of the things, everybody thinks that movie is about Ralphie, who wants a Red Ryder BB gun, and he ultimately gets it at the end of the movie. But I think the movie is really about the dad.
Once again, you have Santa laying down the law. That is my favorite Christmas movie. Yeah, it's a Christmas story. I've been watching it basically every year since the 80s. And one of the things, everybody thinks that movie is about Ralphie, who wants a Red Ryder BB gun, and he ultimately gets it at the end of the movie. But I think the movie is really about the dad.
And if you listen to Ralphie narrate as an older person, his memories of being a kid, some of the best moments are when his dad loses his mind on a broken furnace. He's mad at the Chicago Bears. He's mad at his neighbor's stupid dogs who come in and ruin everything in his house. And I just think I find that guy so hilarious. He's amazing.
And if you listen to Ralphie narrate as an older person, his memories of being a kid, some of the best moments are when his dad loses his mind on a broken furnace. He's mad at the Chicago Bears. He's mad at his neighbor's stupid dogs who come in and ruin everything in his house. And I just think I find that guy so hilarious. He's amazing.
I'm a... Great Robert. Honey, beautiful. Just keep going. Don't worry about it. Just keep going. You're a therapist.
I'm a... Great Robert. Honey, beautiful. Just keep going. Don't worry about it. Just keep going. You're a therapist.
Okay. This is what you dripped on me. Oh, wax. No, after that. It's brown. Okay, make this stop, please.
Okay. This is what you dripped on me. Oh, wax. No, after that. It's brown. Okay, make this stop, please.
Oh, oh, chocolate. Oh, no, before that, after the wax.
Oh, oh, chocolate. Oh, no, before that, after the wax.
Oh, the syrup.
Oh, the syrup.
Yes! Yes!
Yes! Yes!
Way sticky, dude. I would not recommend that.
Way sticky, dude. I would not recommend that.
Okay. Okay, time. Time. Yeah.
Okay. Okay, time. Time. Yeah.
What is this? This is for Christmases, Megan. It's the greatest Christmas movie.
What is this? This is for Christmases, Megan. It's the greatest Christmas movie.
You got to watch it.
You got to watch it.
No, no, no, no, no. It is hilarious. So Vince Vaughn and Reese Witherspoon are sort of living like the childless millennial dream. Like every Christmas, they like tell their families, oh, we're doing humanitarian relief in Africa. We can't come over for the holidays and all that sort of stuff. They show up to the airport and there's a huge storm. And so local news is there to cover it.
No, no, no, no, no. It is hilarious. So Vince Vaughn and Reese Witherspoon are sort of living like the childless millennial dream. Like every Christmas, they like tell their families, oh, we're doing humanitarian relief in Africa. We can't come over for the holidays and all that sort of stuff. They show up to the airport and there's a huge storm. And so local news is there to cover it.
You know, all the flight cancellations, everything. And here they are like they're on camera. They're on live news. And so all their families are watching them not be able to get on their flight. So they have no excuse. So now they finally have to travel to their families for Christmas. And both of their parents are divorced and they're sort of dysfunctional families and all this sort of thing.
You know, all the flight cancellations, everything. And here they are like they're on camera. They're on live news. And so all their families are watching them not be able to get on their flight. So they have no excuse. So now they finally have to travel to their families for Christmas. And both of their parents are divorced and they're sort of dysfunctional families and all this sort of thing.
That scene that you saw there was Vince Vaughn's mother, who is now dating one of his buddies from high school. And so it's four Christmases of some of the most awkward family exchanges you could imagine. I love that. But the lesson in all of this is like families could be totally, totally dysfunctional and you may not like each other all the time, but at the end of the day, it's worth it.
That scene that you saw there was Vince Vaughn's mother, who is now dating one of his buddies from high school. And so it's four Christmases of some of the most awkward family exchanges you could imagine. I love that. But the lesson in all of this is like families could be totally, totally dysfunctional and you may not like each other all the time, but at the end of the day, it's worth it.
And so Reese Witherspoon and Vince Vaughn decide at the end to settle down, have a kid, have a family. So it has a really good message at the end, and it is hilarious. Robert Duvall plays Vince Vaughn's father, and I don't want to ruin it, but he is the funniest character in the entire movie.
And so Reese Witherspoon and Vince Vaughn decide at the end to settle down, have a kid, have a family. So it has a really good message at the end, and it is hilarious. Robert Duvall plays Vince Vaughn's father, and I don't want to ruin it, but he is the funniest character in the entire movie.
Awesome film. What? The Godfather.
Awesome film. What? The Godfather.
Fredo. Of course. Honest to God, that's better than his first choice.
Fredo. Of course. Honest to God, that's better than his first choice.
His first choice, I'm not sure you could have put on your podcast. Yeah, so Amanda wouldn't admit the pick to your team for Eyes Wide Shut. Yeah.
His first choice, I'm not sure you could have put on your podcast. Yeah, so Amanda wouldn't admit the pick to your team for Eyes Wide Shut. Yeah.
It is. So right after that, Michael Corleone is Christmas shopping with Kay when he realizes his father's been shot. It's a Christmas movie. The whole idea is this rejection of people who pick Die Hard as their favorite Christmas movie. Like that was a funny joke 10 years ago, but they cling onto it so strongly. So I propose The Godfather eyes wide shut.
It is. So right after that, Michael Corleone is Christmas shopping with Kay when he realizes his father's been shot. It's a Christmas movie. The whole idea is this rejection of people who pick Die Hard as their favorite Christmas movie. Like that was a funny joke 10 years ago, but they cling onto it so strongly. So I propose The Godfather eyes wide shut.
We've got two minutes for you.
We've got two minutes for you.
I love that movie. It's a good one. What a good movie.
I love that movie. It's a good one. What a good movie.
Yeah, it's like the things that make you happiest in life aren't the acclaim or fame or money. It's the hardest things, right? Like it's family and kids and all that sort of stuff. And it's easy to overlook all of those things. But around the holidays, when you're around family, it gets a lot easier. Well said, Mitch.
Yeah, it's like the things that make you happiest in life aren't the acclaim or fame or money. It's the hardest things, right? Like it's family and kids and all that sort of stuff. And it's easy to overlook all of those things. But around the holidays, when you're around family, it gets a lot easier. Well said, Mitch.
That was right on.
That was right on.
Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas.
I wanted to send a message to the people involved in this assault, to the people who think that it's okay to propagate sexual violence and racial violence and class violence. There are not just legal consequences for these actions.
There are community consequences and the people that are here today are members of your community and we will be here tomorrow and into perpetuity protecting each other and taking care of each other. The community consequences for this action I guarantee you will range far beyond the legal consequences that you will face.
I mean, I love this old black and white and we do a lot of that around my house, but I also just like a laugh and there's nothing funnier than, you know, when you've got a family and everything that goes wrong can go wrong. And it's just like life as a dad, as I found it within a family, when you're hosting Christmas, like something's going wrong and it's a calamity of errors.
So Christmas Vacation is my movie, right? And Chevy Chase.
We have something. Stand by.
Classicals. And it's just like so relatable to me. You know, it's like he has all these like finally just lost it. That's it. I just love that movie.
No, no, I want an officer right under cover, and I shoot you in the chair with my laser rifle.
Once again, you have Santa laying down the law. That is my favorite Christmas movie. Yeah, it's a Christmas story. I've been watching it basically every year since the 80s. And one of the things, everybody thinks that movie is about Ralphie, who wants a Red Ryder BB gun, and he ultimately gets it at the end of the movie. But I think the movie is really about the dad.
And if you listen to Ralphie narrate as an older person, his memories of being a kid, some of the best moments are when his dad loses his mind on a broken furnace. He's mad at the Chicago Bears. He's mad at his neighbor's stupid dogs who come in and ruin everything in his house. And I just think I find that guy so hilarious. He's amazing.
I'm a... Great Robert. Honey, beautiful. Just keep going. Don't worry about it. Just keep going. You're a therapist.
Okay. This is what you dripped on me. Oh, wax. No, after that. It's brown. Okay, make this stop, please.
Oh, oh, chocolate. Oh, no, before that, after the wax.
Oh, the syrup.
Yes! Yes!
Way sticky, dude. I would not recommend that.
Okay. Okay, time. Time. Yeah.
What is this? This is for Christmases, Megan. It's the greatest Christmas movie.
You got to watch it.
No, no, no, no, no. It is hilarious. So Vince Vaughn and Reese Witherspoon are sort of living like the childless millennial dream. Like every Christmas, they like tell their families, oh, we're doing humanitarian relief in Africa. We can't come over for the holidays and all that sort of stuff. They show up to the airport and there's a huge storm. And so local news is there to cover it.
You know, all the flight cancellations, everything. And here they are like they're on camera. They're on live news. And so all their families are watching them not be able to get on their flight. So they have no excuse. So now they finally have to travel to their families for Christmas. And both of their parents are divorced and they're sort of dysfunctional families and all this sort of thing.
That scene that you saw there was Vince Vaughn's mother, who is now dating one of his buddies from high school. And so it's four Christmases of some of the most awkward family exchanges you could imagine. I love that. But the lesson in all of this is like families could be totally, totally dysfunctional and you may not like each other all the time, but at the end of the day, it's worth it.
And so Reese Witherspoon and Vince Vaughn decide at the end to settle down, have a kid, have a family. So it has a really good message at the end, and it is hilarious. Robert Duvall plays Vince Vaughn's father, and I don't want to ruin it, but he is the funniest character in the entire movie.
Awesome film. What? The Godfather.
Fredo. Of course. Honest to God, that's better than his first choice.
His first choice, I'm not sure you could have put on your podcast. Yeah, so Amanda wouldn't admit the pick to your team for Eyes Wide Shut. Yeah.
It is. So right after that, Michael Corleone is Christmas shopping with Kay when he realizes his father's been shot. It's a Christmas movie. The whole idea is this rejection of people who pick Die Hard as their favorite Christmas movie. Like that was a funny joke 10 years ago, but they cling onto it so strongly. So I propose The Godfather eyes wide shut.
We've got two minutes for you.
I love that movie. It's a good one. What a good movie.
Yeah, it's like the things that make you happiest in life aren't the acclaim or fame or money. It's the hardest things, right? Like it's family and kids and all that sort of stuff. And it's easy to overlook all of those things. But around the holidays, when you're around family, it gets a lot easier. Well said, Mitch.
That was right on.
Merry Christmas.
Is it a zero-sum game of niceness?
Is it a zero-sum game of niceness?
Plastic surgeon Shen Wenong recorded himself performing his own vasectomy as a gift to his wife. Not realizing, presumably, that there are services that can help men choose unique and treasured gifts. A vasectomy is a form of birth control in which the surgeon cuts and seals the tubes that carry sperm. And although a vasectomy is an effective means of birth control, so are mutton chops.
Plastic surgeon Shen Wenong recorded himself performing his own vasectomy as a gift to his wife. Not realizing, presumably, that there are services that can help men choose unique and treasured gifts. A vasectomy is a form of birth control in which the surgeon cuts and seals the tubes that carry sperm. And although a vasectomy is an effective means of birth control, so are mutton chops.
In the tutorial video, the doctor slash patient applied anesthetic cream to numb his genitals before having at them with a scalpel and surgical clamp to perform the surgery, during which he only once seized with pain, perhaps thinking, roses, she might have liked roses.
In the tutorial video, the doctor slash patient applied anesthetic cream to numb his genitals before having at them with a scalpel and surgical clamp to perform the surgery, during which he only once seized with pain, perhaps thinking, roses, she might have liked roses.
You know, there's a man who gave himself a vasectomy and filmed it. And it got 4 million views.
You know, there's a man who gave himself a vasectomy and filmed it. And it got 4 million views.
Well, if you can find a man who will do that while you play the ukulele... I'm curious. You just...
Well, if you can find a man who will do that while you play the ukulele... I'm curious. You just...
But it still doesn't matter. It's the passion of what you're doing, and I wouldn't get tripped up by that if I were you.
But it still doesn't matter. It's the passion of what you're doing, and I wouldn't get tripped up by that if I were you.
You know, you should write a song about reading the comments. Ooh, I should.
You know, you should write a song about reading the comments. Ooh, I should.
Wow. How much money do these people have?
Wow. How much money do these people have?
And do they both go to each of them?
And do they both go to each of them?
I think it's just like a stand-in. You know, Bob would be here, but he doesn't enjoy a big wedding.
I think it's just like a stand-in. You know, Bob would be here, but he doesn't enjoy a big wedding.
Don't have to clean the restroom.
Don't have to clean the restroom.
I can attest to that. My bronze medal is gone.
I can attest to that. My bronze medal is gone.
Which one? Is there more than one? There is. The big one over on the left.
Which one? Is there more than one? There is. The big one over on the left.
After her blank got caught in her office chair. Yes. I don't know, her hair.
After her blank got caught in her office chair. Yes. I don't know, her hair.
Yeah, that's just, yeah, you shouldn't, see, that's telling you no about that.
Yeah, that's just, yeah, you shouldn't, see, that's telling you no about that.
And Paula Poundstone. These office chairs are so grabby.
And Paula Poundstone. These office chairs are so grabby.
I mean, that's what I mean. It's really cold out, but I didn't want those balls anyways.
I mean, that's what I mean. It's really cold out, but I didn't want those balls anyways.
You know, Peter, the truth is the boomer asking thing would never work on me.
You know, Peter, the truth is the boomer asking thing would never work on me.
Because if somebody asked me how I was, I would just keep telling them. That's true. I have a tendency. I'm one of the most selfish people I've ever met in my life. If someone comes to my house, which they rarely do because I'm very selfish, but if someone comes to my house, you know, I'll be eating and drinking the whole time they're there. I'll have a soda. I'll eat some chips.
Because if somebody asked me how I was, I would just keep telling them. That's true. I have a tendency. I'm one of the most selfish people I've ever met in my life. If someone comes to my house, which they rarely do because I'm very selfish, but if someone comes to my house, you know, I'll be eating and drinking the whole time they're there. I'll have a soda. I'll eat some chips.
And it's not until they're on the way out the door that I realize, oh, geez, did you want anything to eat?
And it's not until they're on the way out the door that I realize, oh, geez, did you want anything to eat?
Yeah. Okay. The guy who, the travel guy?
Yeah. Okay. The guy who, the travel guy?
Is he kind of tall with red hair and big feet?
Is he kind of tall with red hair and big feet?
I mean, if you're really trying to meet the locals, why not go to their DMV? You know? That's actually a pretty good question. Very good. Why not just cut off your hand and spend some time in their medical system?
I mean, if you're really trying to meet the locals, why not go to their DMV? You know? That's actually a pretty good question. Very good. Why not just cut off your hand and spend some time in their medical system?
Do you know that that mill is closing down? So the aroma of Tacoma is going away in the next few months. So sniff it while you got it, people.
Do you know that that mill is closing down? So the aroma of Tacoma is going away in the next few months. So sniff it while you got it, people.
Oh, you are scrupulous.
Oh, you are scrupulous.
Well, it must be comforting knowing, like, that's not real. There's not a cat and a devil here. Like, I might as well just keep running. There's no threat, you know? Yeah.
Well, it must be comforting knowing, like, that's not real. There's not a cat and a devil here. Like, I might as well just keep running. There's no threat, you know? Yeah.
It's the calories though, right?
It's the calories though, right?
Well, normally she just got the two points, but every one of the toes that she sacrificed is actually worth a quarter point. So we're just going to give you a perfect score.
Well, normally she just got the two points, but every one of the toes that she sacrificed is actually worth a quarter point. So we're just going to give you a perfect score.
Nicely done. Yay.
Nicely done. Yay.
We're very happy that you were so unhappy at that point. You are a style and fashion icon, in addition to, we'll get to the performing and stuff that you do, but I'm really, as somebody who, you can't see me, Billy, but I am wearing an extremely boring outfit.
We're very happy that you were so unhappy at that point. You are a style and fashion icon, in addition to, we'll get to the performing and stuff that you do, but I'm really, as somebody who, you can't see me, Billy, but I am wearing an extremely boring outfit.
Wow.
Wow.
Just to follow up on that, Billy, Peter's outfit right now, he bought at whitesisheteroman.com.
Just to follow up on that, Billy, Peter's outfit right now, he bought at whitesisheteroman.com.
That's amazing. You do belong on PBS.
That's amazing. You do belong on PBS.
He kind of looks like he's about to ask us... He looks like he's about to ask us to leave the restaurant.
He kind of looks like he's about to ask us... He looks like he's about to ask us to leave the restaurant.
Adam, you can stay. But no, Billy. Oh, my God, that's hilarious. My question was going to be, you're always sort of pushing the envelope, and every time you have a look, it goes in a new direction, and it sort of stakes out new ground. Do you feel sort of pressure every time you have a new event? Like, what is it like for you to sit with a designer and think, what are we going to do next?
Adam, you can stay. But no, Billy. Oh, my God, that's hilarious. My question was going to be, you're always sort of pushing the envelope, and every time you have a look, it goes in a new direction, and it sort of stakes out new ground. Do you feel sort of pressure every time you have a new event? Like, what is it like for you to sit with a designer and think, what are we going to do next?
How am I going to top my last thing? Or do you even feel that?
How am I going to top my last thing? Or do you even feel that?
yeah what options to give you yeah can i ask a question whenever i see people on the red carpet there's always someone skulking behind them like tugging at a hem or something or you know what i mean like positioning the gap who is that person and what is the name of that and how did they get into that job i just really want to tug at things for a living that's really that's really funny
yeah what options to give you yeah can i ask a question whenever i see people on the red carpet there's always someone skulking behind them like tugging at a hem or something or you know what i mean like positioning the gap who is that person and what is the name of that and how did they get into that job i just really want to tug at things for a living that's really that's really funny
Oh, I know. Since COVID, you don't have a whole lot of people.
Oh, I know. Since COVID, you don't have a whole lot of people.
Well, also... Billy, many of your outfits are very large. They take up a lot of space. You're a perfect person for the COVID era because if you're wearing, you know. Totally.
Well, also... Billy, many of your outfits are very large. They take up a lot of space. You're a perfect person for the COVID era because if you're wearing, you know. Totally.
Are there any things that you've worn on the red carpet that's like extremely fashionable and extremely stylish but also extremely uncomfortable that then like during the award ceremony or the event that you're in, you're just like, I'm going to change into some sweatpants because I'm going to sit here for three hours. I can't be sitting in this like birdcage looking cape thing or whatever.
Are there any things that you've worn on the red carpet that's like extremely fashionable and extremely stylish but also extremely uncomfortable that then like during the award ceremony or the event that you're in, you're just like, I'm going to change into some sweatpants because I'm going to sit here for three hours. I can't be sitting in this like birdcage looking cape thing or whatever.
The hat that I wore to the Grammys that opened and closed. For people who don't know, it was this hat that sort of had this, it was like a 180 degree sort of curtain that was motorized, and he's saying it was very heavy, and it motorized and it just opened up like a curtain in front of his face.
The hat that I wore to the Grammys that opened and closed. For people who don't know, it was this hat that sort of had this, it was like a 180 degree sort of curtain that was motorized, and he's saying it was very heavy, and it motorized and it just opened up like a curtain in front of his face.
I was going to say, you're a singer, you're an actor, you're a director, you have a degree in screenwriting. Is there anything that you're bad at?
I was going to say, you're a singer, you're an actor, you're a director, you have a degree in screenwriting. Is there anything that you're bad at?
So you're in this new movie, 80 for Brady, about four women in their 80s who go see Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. Can you tell us about it?
So you're in this new movie, 80 for Brady, about four women in their 80s who go see Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. Can you tell us about it?
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I mean, that has to be correct. That is, well... Yeah. More specifically, a lot of the males became unattractive.
I mean, that has to be correct. That is, well... Yeah. More specifically, a lot of the males became unattractive.
Yeah. It's just not appealing to a female of any species.
Yeah. It's just not appealing to a female of any species.
A smilodon? Yes. That's so adorable. That's like a children's story.
A smilodon? Yes. That's so adorable. That's like a children's story.
How do you know that?
How do you know that?
I'm not sure what level these books are. Because really, there's one wherein it said, don't talk to scientists who study this and mention saber-toothed tiger because they will just lose it. Yeah. That's ridiculous. I would like, wait, wait, don't tell me it has a website, doesn't it? I believe we do, yes. Okay. I want to see. A copy of the book. That cautions the reader. The young reader.
I'm not sure what level these books are. Because really, there's one wherein it said, don't talk to scientists who study this and mention saber-toothed tiger because they will just lose it. Yeah. That's ridiculous. I would like, wait, wait, don't tell me it has a website, doesn't it? I believe we do, yes. Okay. I want to see. A copy of the book. That cautions the reader. The young reader.
I'm assuming, how old is your son that you're reading this book to? My son is four. Oh, yeah. You're not one of those parents who's already pushing your kid to get into college, are you? All right, I want you to go to college, but here's a tip. When you get in there... Do not. For the love of God, yeah. Your mother and I love you very much, but there's one thing up with which we cannot put.
I'm assuming, how old is your son that you're reading this book to? My son is four. Oh, yeah. You're not one of those parents who's already pushing your kid to get into college, are you? All right, I want you to go to college, but here's a tip. When you get in there... Do not. For the love of God, yeah. Your mother and I love you very much, but there's one thing up with which we cannot put.
Coming up, it's like... Wait a minute, coming up. What's the name of the book?
Coming up, it's like... Wait a minute, coming up. What's the name of the book?
I just made these little DJ cards.
I just made these little DJ cards.
I'm like, oh, I see why they did that.
I'm like, oh, I see why they did that.
That song legit slaps. So I heard this weird factoid about you.
That song legit slaps. So I heard this weird factoid about you.
On the Code Switch podcast, 40 years ago, the Philadelphia Police Department carried out a bombing that destroyed a Black neighborhood on live TV. And yet the deadly events of that day have been largely forgotten.
On the Code Switch podcast, 40 years ago, the Philadelphia Police Department carried out a bombing that destroyed a Black neighborhood on live TV. And yet the deadly events of that day have been largely forgotten.
Is there, like, do taxidermists have, like, their own aesthetic? Like, what makes a great taxidermy?
Is there, like, do taxidermists have, like, their own aesthetic? Like, what makes a great taxidermy?
A good mount. Thank you.
A good mount. Thank you.
How do you get anatomically correct models of animals or do you make them?
How do you get anatomically correct models of animals or do you make them?
Tons of molds. I mean, obviously, you're so deeply invested in this. I have a problem with stuffed animals because whenever I look away, I assume they're moving their heads to stare at me. And I turn and I look back and they're immediately still again. I find it discomforting to be near all those completely still animals. It's creepy.
Tons of molds. I mean, obviously, you're so deeply invested in this. I have a problem with stuffed animals because whenever I look away, I assume they're moving their heads to stare at me. And I turn and I look back and they're immediately still again. I find it discomforting to be near all those completely still animals. It's creepy.
There is now a historic marker because a group of middle school children were assigned to look at police brutality in their community. Listen to the Code Switch podcast from the NPR network.
There is now a historic marker because a group of middle school children were assigned to look at police brutality in their community. Listen to the Code Switch podcast from the NPR network.
It was an act of courage on my part. Well, Amber Maycott, we have invited you here to play a game we're calling They're Alive. So as we have been discussing, you specialize in putting deceased animals recreated in people's homes. So we thought we'd ask you about three instances of live animals getting in there. Get two to three right. You will win our prize for one of our listeners.
It was an act of courage on my part. Well, Amber Maycott, we have invited you here to play a game we're calling They're Alive. So as we have been discussing, you specialize in putting deceased animals recreated in people's homes. So we thought we'd ask you about three instances of live animals getting in there. Get two to three right. You will win our prize for one of our listeners.
Are you ready to play? Sure. All right. Chioki, who is Amber Maycott playing for? Larry Gold of Minneapolis, Minnesota. All right. Minnesotans here. Here's your first question. An Australian family was surprised when a koala got into their house, especially because it took them a little while to notice it. Where was it? A, on their couch next to a throw pillow with a koala printed on it.
Are you ready to play? Sure. All right. Chioki, who is Amber Maycott playing for? Larry Gold of Minneapolis, Minnesota. All right. Minnesotans here. Here's your first question. An Australian family was surprised when a koala got into their house, especially because it took them a little while to notice it. Where was it? A, on their couch next to a throw pillow with a koala printed on it.
B, hanging on their Christmas tree as if pretending to be an ornament. Or C, sitting on top of their ceiling fan until that is they turned the ceiling fan on.
B, hanging on their Christmas tree as if pretending to be an ornament. Or C, sitting on top of their ceiling fan until that is they turned the ceiling fan on.
I'm going to go with A. You're going to go with A, that it was on their couch next to a koala throw pillow. And they were like, oh, I guess we have two koalas. Oh, you pick it up because you're choosing B, hanging on their Christmas tree?
I'm going to go with A. You're going to go with A, that it was on their couch next to a koala throw pillow. And they were like, oh, I guess we have two koalas. Oh, you pick it up because you're choosing B, hanging on their Christmas tree?
That's right. Oh, wow. Nice. It was like hanging on the Christmas tree. They like trees. It makes sense, all right? Good. All right. Next question. Some people actually welcome wild animals into their homes, including some surprising people. Like which of these?
That's right. Oh, wow. Nice. It was like hanging on the Christmas tree. They like trees. It makes sense, all right? Good. All right. Next question. Some people actually welcome wild animals into their homes, including some surprising people. Like which of these?
A, Britain's King Charles, who not only lets red squirrels into his Scottish estate, but leaves jackets hanging on chairs with nuts in the pockets for them to find. B, Jamie Foxx, who has a deal with local animal control for them to bring any captured foxes, naturally, to his house. Or C, Peyton Manning, who learned to imitate six different mating calls so he could attract animals to his patio.
A, Britain's King Charles, who not only lets red squirrels into his Scottish estate, but leaves jackets hanging on chairs with nuts in the pockets for them to find. B, Jamie Foxx, who has a deal with local animal control for them to bring any captured foxes, naturally, to his house. Or C, Peyton Manning, who learned to imitate six different mating calls so he could attract animals to his patio.
Yeah, that'll do it. Now, the question I often ask people like you who've done so many different things is, what do you most recognize for? And you say in the book that you wish you had used a different voice for Olaf the snowman because whenever you're talking in public, children hear you and go insane.
Yeah, that'll do it. Now, the question I often ask people like you who've done so many different things is, what do you most recognize for? And you say in the book that you wish you had used a different voice for Olaf the snowman because whenever you're talking in public, children hear you and go insane.
I'll go with A. You can go with A. Britain's King Charles, you're right. Yeah. He loves those red squirrels. He says, sometimes when I leave my jackets on a chair with nuts in the pockets, I see them with their tails sticking out as they hunt for nuts. They're incredibly special creatures. All right. Last question. You're doing very well. It's not just houses that can have trouble with wildlife.
I'll go with A. You can go with A. Britain's King Charles, you're right. Yeah. He loves those red squirrels. He says, sometimes when I leave my jackets on a chair with nuts in the pockets, I see them with their tails sticking out as they hunt for nuts. They're incredibly special creatures. All right. Last question. You're doing very well. It's not just houses that can have trouble with wildlife.
A high school in Little Rock had a bat infestation but dealt with it quickly and decisively. Just by doing what? A, changing their mascot from the running rebels to the fighting bats. B, enrolling the bats as students, which allowed them access to state funds to get rid of the bats. Or C, just ceding control of the school to the bats and making all classes remote for a while.
A high school in Little Rock had a bat infestation but dealt with it quickly and decisively. Just by doing what? A, changing their mascot from the running rebels to the fighting bats. B, enrolling the bats as students, which allowed them access to state funds to get rid of the bats. Or C, just ceding control of the school to the bats and making all classes remote for a while.
C. Yes, exactly right. It took them about four days to clear out the bats and clean up everything and bring the students back.
C. Yes, exactly right. It took them about four days to clear out the bats and clean up everything and bring the students back.
She is a winner. Well done.
She is a winner. Well done.
Amber Maycutt is a taxidermist to the stars and the founder of Brooklyn Taxidermy. You can see her work at brooklyntaxidermy.com. I recommend it highly. Amber, well, thank you so much for being on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Take care. Bye-bye.
Amber Maycutt is a taxidermist to the stars and the founder of Brooklyn Taxidermy. You can see her work at brooklyntaxidermy.com. I recommend it highly. Amber, well, thank you so much for being on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Take care. Bye-bye.
I asked her how she came to embrace that handle.
I asked her how she came to embrace that handle.
Right.
Right.
If there's not, if there might be somebody in the audience who's not as au courant with Detroit hip hop as you and I. It came from a, but it was bestowed upon you by a rapper, a Detroit rapper named G-Mac, right?
If there's not, if there might be somebody in the audience who's not as au courant with Detroit hip hop as you and I. It came from a, but it was bestowed upon you by a rapper, a Detroit rapper named G-Mac, right?
Right, and for people who don't know it, I'm not going to attempt to perform it, but the chorus is, throw the buffs on her face, because that's Big Gretch. We ain't about to stress, we got Big Gretch. You can find her in the press under Big Gretch. Fresh in a new dress, yeah, that's Big Gretch.
Right, and for people who don't know it, I'm not going to attempt to perform it, but the chorus is, throw the buffs on her face, because that's Big Gretch. We ain't about to stress, we got Big Gretch. You can find her in the press under Big Gretch. Fresh in a new dress, yeah, that's Big Gretch.
And you said you weren't going to perform. It's almost like GMAT Cash is here with us.
And you said you weren't going to perform. It's almost like GMAT Cash is here with us.
It really is.
It really is.
Sticking with nicknames for a second, you mention in the book that you've had other nicknames before Big Gretch, one of which was Gravity Gretcheth.
Sticking with nicknames for a second, you mention in the book that you've had other nicknames before Big Gretch, one of which was Gravity Gretcheth.
And could you tell us how you got that particular nickname?
And could you tell us how you got that particular nickname?
And what did you do to anger God thusly? I don't know.
And what did you do to anger God thusly? I don't know.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Something for the next book.
Something for the next book.
Since we brought it up, I have to ask you about another time you fell down or at least were found on the ground in high school, which again I think is a unique story among America's governors. I was wondering if you could share that.
Since we brought it up, I have to ask you about another time you fell down or at least were found on the ground in high school, which again I think is a unique story among America's governors. I was wondering if you could share that.
I get that. But in the telling of that story, which as you say is inspirational both in terms of its effect on your life and I think hopefully to the many young people who might read the book, there was a detail that you left out just now. Which is when the principal found you.
I get that. But in the telling of that story, which as you say is inspirational both in terms of its effect on your life and I think hopefully to the many young people who might read the book, there was a detail that you left out just now. Which is when the principal found you.
Didn't you like... Oh, I threw up on him.
Didn't you like... Oh, I threw up on him.
I gotta tell you, this all sounds like Big Gretch Bay. It really does.
I gotta tell you, this all sounds like Big Gretch Bay. It really does.
It really does. Continuing, this is great, because one of the interesting things about your life is that we can tell it via nicknames. Another famous one, of course, you can find it on merch, That Woman from Michigan. which was bestowed upon you by President Trump, or as I guess we should call him, President Trump 1.0. It must be exciting. Are you hoping for a new nickname in the second term?
It really does. Continuing, this is great, because one of the interesting things about your life is that we can tell it via nicknames. Another famous one, of course, you can find it on merch, That Woman from Michigan. which was bestowed upon you by President Trump, or as I guess we should call him, President Trump 1.0. It must be exciting. Are you hoping for a new nickname in the second term?
All right. But, you know, the T-shirt printers are ready in case it comes up with something.
All right. But, you know, the T-shirt printers are ready in case it comes up with something.
Governor Whitmer, it is an absolute thrill to be able to talk to you here in Detroit. As we have with so many important people, we have invited you here to play a game that this time we are calling... Check out these not-so-Great Lakes. So Michigan, as I'm sure you know, is the Great Lakes state.
Governor Whitmer, it is an absolute thrill to be able to talk to you here in Detroit. As we have with so many important people, we have invited you here to play a game that this time we are calling... Check out these not-so-Great Lakes. So Michigan, as I'm sure you know, is the Great Lakes state.
Yeah. LAUGHTER So we thought we'd ask you about some not-so-great lakes, that is, much, much smaller bodies of water. Answer two or three questions about tiny lakes correctly, and you will win our prize. One of our listeners, the voice of anyone they might choose for our show. Bill, who is Governor Whitmer playing for?
Yeah. LAUGHTER So we thought we'd ask you about some not-so-great lakes, that is, much, much smaller bodies of water. Answer two or three questions about tiny lakes correctly, and you will win our prize. One of our listeners, the voice of anyone they might choose for our show. Bill, who is Governor Whitmer playing for?
Are you ready to do this? I'm ready. Here's your first question. One of the smallest bodies of water you can find is, of course, a hot tub. And if you happen to have a hot tub outside of your house in Monrovia, California in the 1990s, you had to watch out for what? A, a brand new STD that evolved in the heated water called Jacuzzi Rhea.
Are you ready to do this? I'm ready. Here's your first question. One of the smallest bodies of water you can find is, of course, a hot tub. And if you happen to have a hot tub outside of your house in Monrovia, California in the 1990s, you had to watch out for what? A, a brand new STD that evolved in the heated water called Jacuzzi Rhea.
B, Samson the hot tub bear, a 500-pound black bear who loved ending his day in somebody's hot tub. Or C, a business called Peeping Tim's Aerial Hot Tub Helicopter Tours.
B, Samson the hot tub bear, a 500-pound black bear who loved ending his day in somebody's hot tub. Or C, a business called Peeping Tim's Aerial Hot Tub Helicopter Tours.
You just knew.
You just knew.
You just had a feeling because of your knowledge of hot tubs, your knowledge of bears, both, neither. All of the above. All of the above, yes. All right. That was very good, Governor. Here's your next question. Puddles. Harmless little bodies of water, but they can cause problems from time to time, as in when which of these happened?
You just had a feeling because of your knowledge of hot tubs, your knowledge of bears, both, neither. All of the above. All of the above, yes. All right. That was very good, Governor. Here's your next question. Puddles. Harmless little bodies of water, but they can cause problems from time to time, as in when which of these happened?
A, a Japanese government official got in trouble for making a subordinate give him a piggyback ride over a puddle. B, a single puddle caused a massive traffic jam in Texas when a cyber truck rolled through it and shorted it out. Or C, a Florida billionaire got caught trying to get a tax break by calling a puddle on his property an endangered wetland.
A, a Japanese government official got in trouble for making a subordinate give him a piggyback ride over a puddle. B, a single puddle caused a massive traffic jam in Texas when a cyber truck rolled through it and shorted it out. Or C, a Florida billionaire got caught trying to get a tax break by calling a puddle on his property an endangered wetland.
I mean, I think it's A. You think it's A, the Japanese government official. You're right. Oh. You're right. This happened back in 2016. Thank you.
I mean, I think it's A. You think it's A, the Japanese government official. You're right. Oh. You're right. This happened back in 2016. Thank you.
There you go. Yeah, okay, there's some people. So I myself have never watched the show. Why is that surprising? Who is Bearclaw?
There you go. Yeah, okay, there's some people. So I myself have never watched the show. Why is that surprising? Who is Bearclaw?
And there was this big typhoon that damaged, and the minister in charge of emergency relief showed up, and there was a big puddle, and he says he forgot to bring his overshoes, so he had a subordinate pick him up and carry him through the puddle, which did not go over well with the Japanese public. I had to apologize. All right, that's very good. You have one more.
And there was this big typhoon that damaged, and the minister in charge of emergency relief showed up, and there was a big puddle, and he says he forgot to bring his overshoes, so he had a subordinate pick him up and carry him through the puddle, which did not go over well with the Japanese public. I had to apologize. All right, that's very good. You have one more.
Let's see if you can be perfect here. The largest public swimming pool ever... we think, was the Fleischhacker public pool in San Francisco. It was so enormous during its heyday that what once happened? A, it was taken over by a pod of gray whales. B, it had to close twice a day for low tide. Or C, they had to put lifeguards out to patrol the pool in rowboats. C. That's right. Wow.
Let's see if you can be perfect here. The largest public swimming pool ever... we think, was the Fleischhacker public pool in San Francisco. It was so enormous during its heyday that what once happened? A, it was taken over by a pod of gray whales. B, it had to close twice a day for low tide. Or C, they had to put lifeguards out to patrol the pool in rowboats. C. That's right. Wow.
It was an enormous pool, now closed, now gone. Those with seawater piped in from the ocean next door, they say, could accommodate 10,000 people at once. Bill, how did Governor Whitmer do in our quiz? She's perfect.
It was an enormous pool, now closed, now gone. Those with seawater piped in from the ocean next door, they say, could accommodate 10,000 people at once. Bill, how did Governor Whitmer do in our quiz? She's perfect.
Yes.
Yes.
Gretchen Whitmer is the governor of Michigan. Her new book, True Gretch, is available now. It's a hoot and a half. Governor Gretchen Whitmer, thank you so much for joining us.
Gretchen Whitmer is the governor of Michigan. Her new book, True Gretch, is available now. It's a hoot and a half. Governor Gretchen Whitmer, thank you so much for joining us.
When we come back, two of the humans behind the heavy metal aliens of GWAR and a singer-songwriter with a very special connection to me. That's when we come back with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR.
When we come back, two of the humans behind the heavy metal aliens of GWAR and a singer-songwriter with a very special connection to me. That's when we come back with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR.
Thank you, Bill. Thank you. So by this time, at the exotic spa where we're spending the week, we've had the massages, the yoga, the meditation, and frankly, none of us are feeling any better.
Thank you, Bill. Thank you. So by this time, at the exotic spa where we're spending the week, we've had the massages, the yoga, the meditation, and frankly, none of us are feeling any better.
Well, you work on that, Bill. Here are two more treatments for our audience in the form of music therapy, by which we mean interviews with musicians.
Well, you work on that, Bill. Here are two more treatments for our audience in the form of music therapy, by which we mean interviews with musicians.
We were joined by Mike Bishop and Mike Dirks, who did something they almost never do. They got up on stage without their elaborate costumes and makeup. So I started by asking them to describe their band.
We were joined by Mike Bishop and Mike Dirks, who did something they almost never do. They got up on stage without their elaborate costumes and makeup. So I started by asking them to describe their band.
It's a theatrical shock rock, shock heavy metal band that is very performative on stage. And we are a theatrical show that involves a lot of costuming and set pieces and phony executions.
It's a theatrical shock rock, shock heavy metal band that is very performative on stage. And we are a theatrical show that involves a lot of costuming and set pieces and phony executions.
Oh, that old saw. Quite literally. They use a saw sometimes.
Oh, that old saw. Quite literally. They use a saw sometimes.
We're also from outer space, though. We have a more narrative.
We're also from outer space, though. We have a more narrative.
Right. And you two were right there in the beginning. And when you joined the band, did you pick your own characters?
Right. And you two were right there in the beginning. And when you joined the band, did you pick your own characters?
Balzac, the Jaws of Death.
Balzac, the Jaws of Death.
And Bishop, who are you on stage?
And Bishop, who are you on stage?
So originally, I was Beefcake the Mighty, who was the bass player.
So originally, I was Beefcake the Mighty, who was the bass player.
Beefcake has some fans here.
Beefcake has some fans here.
Yeah, and now I am the singer following the passing of the original lead singer, Dave Brockie, who everybody knows and loves. I came back, and now I play the Berserker Blothar.
Yeah, and now I am the singer following the passing of the original lead singer, Dave Brockie, who everybody knows and loves. I came back, and now I play the Berserker Blothar.
The Berserker Blothar. And for people who haven't seen it, these costumes you wear are not just... I mean, like the guys from Kiss, for example, are just amateurs when it comes to you guys. You've got, like, enormous headpieces and huge full-body costumes that often have... shall we say, over-the-top anatomy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
The Berserker Blothar. And for people who haven't seen it, these costumes you wear are not just... I mean, like the guys from Kiss, for example, are just amateurs when it comes to you guys. You've got, like, enormous headpieces and huge full-body costumes that often have... shall we say, over-the-top anatomy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
This is not your first time at NPR because, famously, GWAR did a tiny desk concert. This is true. And, by the way, I recommend everybody watch this. When you walked into NPR headquarters in the full GWAR regalia, what was the reaction from our colleagues there? It was enthusiastic. LAUGHTER
This is not your first time at NPR because, famously, GWAR did a tiny desk concert. This is true. And, by the way, I recommend everybody watch this. When you walked into NPR headquarters in the full GWAR regalia, what was the reaction from our colleagues there? It was enthusiastic. LAUGHTER
Wait a minute, what do you mean?
Wait a minute, what do you mean?
It'd be like, hey, Scott Simon, could you step out of the office just for a second? Yeah, yeah. Sylvia. And you, GWAR, very popular in Richmond, of course, and you even have a GWAR bar. We do. Yeah. People have been here for fans. And Dierks, you work there sometimes, right?
It'd be like, hey, Scott Simon, could you step out of the office just for a second? Yeah, yeah. Sylvia. And you, GWAR, very popular in Richmond, of course, and you even have a GWAR bar. We do. Yeah. People have been here for fans. And Dierks, you work there sometimes, right?
Right. And do people ever come in? I presume they're GWAR fans.
Right. And do people ever come in? I presume they're GWAR fans.
Well, Mike Dirks and Mike Bishop, we have invited you here to play a game we're calling... You guys are Gwar.
Well, Mike Dirks and Mike Bishop, we have invited you here to play a game we're calling... You guys are Gwar.
We're going to ask you about Jaguars. Answer two out of three questions about Jaguars of various kinds. You'll win a prize for one of our listeners. Choki, who are Mike and Mike playing for?
We're going to ask you about Jaguars. Answer two out of three questions about Jaguars of various kinds. You'll win a prize for one of our listeners. Choki, who are Mike and Mike playing for?
All right. One down, lady. If you win, maybe she'll come by the bar to thank you. All right, here we go. Now, the Jacksonville Jaguars are an NFL team that's had some good seasons, but they have also been Very unlucky, including one year when their punter suffered a unique injury. What was it? A, he bet somebody he could punt a 35-pound kettlebell and broke all his toes.
All right. One down, lady. If you win, maybe she'll come by the bar to thank you. All right, here we go. Now, the Jacksonville Jaguars are an NFL team that's had some good seasons, but they have also been Very unlucky, including one year when their punter suffered a unique injury. What was it? A, he bet somebody he could punt a 35-pound kettlebell and broke all his toes.
B, he accidentally chopped himself in the leg with the inspirational axe kept in the locker room. Or C, he joined the team's cheerleaders for a kick line and ruptured his groin on the first kick.
B, he accidentally chopped himself in the leg with the inspirational axe kept in the locker room. Or C, he joined the team's cheerleaders for a kick line and ruptured his groin on the first kick.
C sounds real.
C sounds real.
The kicker joining a kick line?
The kicker joining a kick line?
Broke his toes. So let me get this right. Dierks, you're picking he broke his toes trying to punt a kettlebell. And Bishop, you're choosing he got in the kick line with a Julie. It was actually the other one. The coach kept an axe and a stump in the locker room to inspire his team to, quote, keep chopping. What does that have to do with Jaguars? And one day, the punter did.
Broke his toes. So let me get this right. Dierks, you're picking he broke his toes trying to punt a kettlebell. And Bishop, you're choosing he got in the kick line with a Julie. It was actually the other one. The coach kept an axe and a stump in the locker room to inspire his team to, quote, keep chopping. What does that have to do with Jaguars? And one day, the punter did.
All right, that's okay, guys. You still have two more chances. Here is your next question. The Jacksonville Jaguars mascot is Jackson DeVille. It's a person in a skintight suit and a big jaguar head. And he has been so innovative in the mascot arts that he has actually inspired a rule change for all mascots across the NFL. What is that rule change?
All right, that's okay, guys. You still have two more chances. Here is your next question. The Jacksonville Jaguars mascot is Jackson DeVille. It's a person in a skintight suit and a big jaguar head. And he has been so innovative in the mascot arts that he has actually inspired a rule change for all mascots across the NFL. What is that rule change?
A, no mascot may ever mime intimate acts with the other team's mascot. B, all mascots must be drug tested before each half. Or C, no mascot may get closer than six feet to the field of play, especially not if they are carrying a life-size dummy of the opponent's quarterback that they intend to stomp on midfield.
A, no mascot may ever mime intimate acts with the other team's mascot. B, all mascots must be drug tested before each half. Or C, no mascot may get closer than six feet to the field of play, especially not if they are carrying a life-size dummy of the opponent's quarterback that they intend to stomp on midfield.
Can I ask a question about Olaf? Yes. So I have a six-year-old daughter. So your voice is like in my apartment all the time. And I, you're great.
Can I ask a question about Olaf? Yes. So I have a six-year-old daughter. So your voice is like in my apartment all the time. And I, you're great.
Maybe it was. That's the real answer, of course. The... The rule arose from an incident in a game against the Steelers in 1998. Okay, let's start talking about real jaguars. According to the scientists who work at a wildlife reserve in Guatemala, the best way to attract one of the big cats that can do it without fail is to do what? A, turn on music by Kenny G, which the jaguars find irresistible.
Maybe it was. That's the real answer, of course. The... The rule arose from an incident in a game against the Steelers in 1998. Okay, let's start talking about real jaguars. According to the scientists who work at a wildlife reserve in Guatemala, the best way to attract one of the big cats that can do it without fail is to do what? A, turn on music by Kenny G, which the jaguars find irresistible.
B, where lots of obsession by Calvin Klein... which draws them like flies, or C, dress like Jackson DeVille, the Jacksonville Jaguars mascot?
B, where lots of obsession by Calvin Klein... which draws them like flies, or C, dress like Jackson DeVille, the Jacksonville Jaguars mascot?
I bet it's Kenny G, man.
I bet it's Kenny G, man.
Oh, wow. The audience is saying... B. B. The audience is shouting B. Session. Session by Calvin Klein.
Oh, wow. The audience is saying... B. B. The audience is shouting B. Session. Session by Calvin Klein.
Well, they've got that thing where they go...
Well, they've got that thing where they go...
So you're going to go for B? Yes, that's right. Congratulations, everyone.
So you're going to go for B? Yes, that's right. Congratulations, everyone.
Finally, in October of last year, we hosted the singer-songwriter Cara Jackson, a former Illinois and then national youth poet laureate.
Finally, in October of last year, we hosted the singer-songwriter Cara Jackson, a former Illinois and then national youth poet laureate.
Thanks for having me. Now, I have left off. what I think of as one of the most important items on your resume, which is that you were one of the starting players on the Angels, an eight-year-old girl's t-ball team in Oak Park, which I coached. Yeah. So... A little nervous about the answer. What do you remember about...
Thanks for having me. Now, I have left off. what I think of as one of the most important items on your resume, which is that you were one of the starting players on the Angels, an eight-year-old girl's t-ball team in Oak Park, which I coached. Yeah. So... A little nervous about the answer. What do you remember about...
Coach coach Sagal on the on the Angels and being on the Angels, you know, I was pretty good at t-ball I've gotta say I was just really tall Yeah, I feel like some people struggled like there were some people where it was like they were shorter so they had to like You know lower the tea. Yeah, but the taller kids they would make it bigger and everyone would be like back up like I
Coach coach Sagal on the on the Angels and being on the Angels, you know, I was pretty good at t-ball I've gotta say I was just really tall Yeah, I feel like some people struggled like there were some people where it was like they were shorter so they had to like You know lower the tea. Yeah, but the taller kids they would make it bigger and everyone would be like back up like I
There really is no better feeling, I imagine, than coming to bat with the tee and all the other players.
There really is no better feeling, I imagine, than coming to bat with the tee and all the other players.
Yeah, I feel like I'm still chasing that high, honestly.
Yeah, I feel like I'm still chasing that high, honestly.
Right? So you moved from tee ball to poetry and were named the Chicago Youth Poet Laureate while you were still in high school. Do you remember any of those early poems?
Right? So you moved from tee ball to poetry and were named the Chicago Youth Poet Laureate while you were still in high school. Do you remember any of those early poems?
What kind of relationship do you have with the parents of the children that go nuts?
What kind of relationship do you have with the parents of the children that go nuts?
Well, unfortunately for me, a part of the Youth Poet Laureate program in the city, every poet laureate is responsible for writing a chapbook, so like a mini book of poems. So I have, you know, a living archive of all the poems I wrote at that time.
Well, unfortunately for me, a part of the Youth Poet Laureate program in the city, every poet laureate is responsible for writing a chapbook, so like a mini book of poems. So I have, you know, a living archive of all the poems I wrote at that time.
Right.
Right.
Do you ever go back and look at them and how do you feel about them? I think it's been a minute since I've looked back at them, but I think I have mixed emotions. Sometimes it's cringy just because I think that having a living record of things you thought as a teenager would just be cringy probably for everyone here.
Do you ever go back and look at them and how do you feel about them? I think it's been a minute since I've looked back at them, but I think I have mixed emotions. Sometimes it's cringy just because I think that having a living record of things you thought as a teenager would just be cringy probably for everyone here.
You know, it's also like a chance for me that I'm trying to do better the older I get to also treat my younger self with care and appreciate what I was doing at that age, because I think you take for granted a lot.
You know, it's also like a chance for me that I'm trying to do better the older I get to also treat my younger self with care and appreciate what I was doing at that age, because I think you take for granted a lot.
Yeah, my advice would be go to that young girl you once were and give her a snack and a juice box, because it always worked.
Yeah, my advice would be go to that young girl you once were and give her a snack and a juice box, because it always worked.
Yeah, the after the game snacks.
Yeah, the after the game snacks.
Oh, the best part of T-ball.
Oh, the best part of T-ball.
So good.
So good.
I can see we're never going to get off that topic. You then became, and I remember hearing about this and being very impressed, the National Youth Poet Laureate.
I can see we're never going to get off that topic. You then became, and I remember hearing about this and being very impressed, the National Youth Poet Laureate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right, and what kind of, I mean, that sounds like a serious post. What kind of obligations, duties, ceremony, or otherwise come with it?
Right, and what kind of, I mean, that sounds like a serious post. What kind of obligations, duties, ceremony, or otherwise come with it?
Yeah, so when I became the Youth Poet Laureate, I was the third one. So I think the program was still kind of establishing itself in terms of what it entails as a role. I think it was still kind of, you know, becoming a real tangible thing.
Yeah, so when I became the Youth Poet Laureate, I was the third one. So I think the program was still kind of establishing itself in terms of what it entails as a role. I think it was still kind of, you know, becoming a real tangible thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know. I really think I only look at the new ones with admiration because they're younger than me. Either way, I think I would never trade places with someone who's, like, 19. Like, no matter what I'm going through. Yeah, yeah. But...
I don't know. I really think I only look at the new ones with admiration because they're younger than me. Either way, I think I would never trade places with someone who's, like, 19. Like, no matter what I'm going through. Yeah, yeah. But...
And you're 25 right now.
And you're 25 right now.
Yeah. Okay. Almost 25. In a couple weeks.
Yeah. Okay. Almost 25. In a couple weeks.
You're not 25 yet? She's 24.
You're not 25 yet? She's 24.
24 and a half. Let's talk about your music.
24 and a half. Let's talk about your music.
So you have a song about the various losers you've dated. It's called Head Blues. It's pretty scathing, and I'm wondering, what has that done for your social life?
So you have a song about the various losers you've dated. It's called Head Blues. It's pretty scathing, and I'm wondering, what has that done for your social life?
I don't know, because I think that I am really associated with like-minded people, so I think it maybe only enhanced it. I feel like... for people who needed that song, they really leaned into it. And it's been fun to travel and perform that one in front of many different audiences. I had to perform at the U.S. Ambassador in London, and I did that song for the U.S. Ambassador.
I don't know, because I think that I am really associated with like-minded people, so I think it maybe only enhanced it. I feel like... for people who needed that song, they really leaned into it. And it's been fun to travel and perform that one in front of many different audiences. I had to perform at the U.S. Ambassador in London, and I did that song for the U.S. Ambassador.
And she was really cool with it. I feel like she maybe related, possibly. And the response was positive? Yeah.
And she was really cool with it. I feel like she maybe related, possibly. And the response was positive? Yeah.
Yeah, well, there you are.
Yeah, well, there you are.
The ambassador was like, right on, right on. He said, yeah, girl.
The ambassador was like, right on, right on. He said, yeah, girl.
Get them, Glo.
Get them, Glo.
Well, Kara Jackson, it is great to talk to you, and we've invited you here to play a game we're calling... It's a, yes, fun party. So, you wrote a song called No Fun Party. Yes. So, based on that, we thought we'd ask you about some really fun parties. Answer two to three questions correctly, you'll win our prize. One of our listeners, the voice of anyone they might choose for their voicemail.
Well, Kara Jackson, it is great to talk to you, and we've invited you here to play a game we're calling... It's a, yes, fun party. So, you wrote a song called No Fun Party. Yes. So, based on that, we thought we'd ask you about some really fun parties. Answer two to three questions correctly, you'll win our prize. One of our listeners, the voice of anyone they might choose for their voicemail.
Bill, who is Kara Jackson playing for?
Bill, who is Kara Jackson playing for?
okay yeah first question uh the former executive of a company called tyco was sent to prison back in the day for stealing money from his company to fund his lavish lifestyle including a 2002 birthday party for his wife which included which of these a each guest getting a new mercedes-benz in a giant bag as they departed be an ice sculpture of michelangelo's david that dispensed vodka from his little david
okay yeah first question uh the former executive of a company called tyco was sent to prison back in the day for stealing money from his company to fund his lavish lifestyle including a 2002 birthday party for his wife which included which of these a each guest getting a new mercedes-benz in a giant bag as they departed be an ice sculpture of michelangelo's david that dispensed vodka from his little david
Or C, a musical background of instrumental versions of U2 songs played during the cocktail hour by U2? I feel like... maybe it's B? It is B. So if you think about it, it's sort of like a spigot, right? The ice sculptor? Anyway... Here is your next question. A British woman named Ivy Smalls celebrated her 105th birthday back in 2016. She only had one request for the party. What was it?
Or C, a musical background of instrumental versions of U2 songs played during the cocktail hour by U2? I feel like... maybe it's B? It is B. So if you think about it, it's sort of like a spigot, right? The ice sculptor? Anyway... Here is your next question. A British woman named Ivy Smalls celebrated her 105th birthday back in 2016. She only had one request for the party. What was it?
A, life-size blown-up photos of all her enemies that she had outlived.
A, life-size blown-up photos of all her enemies that she had outlived.
B, hunky firefighters with tattoos. Or C, pot brownies. Hmm. The first one speaks to me the most, so I'm going to go with A. Life-size photos of all the people she had outlived. No, it was actually hunky firefighters with tattoos.
B, hunky firefighters with tattoos. Or C, pot brownies. Hmm. The first one speaks to me the most, so I'm going to go with A. Life-size photos of all the people she had outlived. No, it was actually hunky firefighters with tattoos.
Really?
Really?
Yeah, that's what she wanted. All right, here's your last question. Get this right, you win. Colleges are known, of course, for huge parties, and in 2017, one house party at a college in Maryland became such a rager that what happened? A. NBA scouts showed up just to recruit from the beer pong games.
Yeah, that's what she wanted. All right, here's your last question. Get this right, you win. Colleges are known, of course, for huge parties, and in 2017, one house party at a college in Maryland became such a rager that what happened? A. NBA scouts showed up just to recruit from the beer pong games.
B, when the cops came to bust up their party, their breathalyzers all went off just from the air inside the house. Or C, the party became so big it could be seen from space.
B, when the cops came to bust up their party, their breathalyzers all went off just from the air inside the house. Or C, the party became so big it could be seen from space.
Yeah, I'm going to go with B. Sorry in advance to this person. You're right again.
Yeah, I'm going to go with B. Sorry in advance to this person. You're right again.
The air was so thick with alcohol that the breathalyzers on their belts started beeping.
The air was so thick with alcohol that the breathalyzers on their belts started beeping.
Kara Jackson is an award-winning poet and the celebrated singer-songwriter behind Why Does the Earth Give Us People to Love? And speaking from personal experience, she's a contact hitter who can hit with power to all fields. Kara Jackson, thank you so much for joining us on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. That's it for our Wellness Retreat Edition.
Kara Jackson is an award-winning poet and the celebrated singer-songwriter behind Why Does the Earth Give Us People to Love? And speaking from personal experience, she's a contact hitter who can hit with power to all fields. Kara Jackson, thank you so much for joining us on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. That's it for our Wellness Retreat Edition.
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This is NPR. On the Code Switch podcast, 40 years ago, the Philadelphia Police Department carried out a bombing that destroyed a black neighborhood on live TV. And yet the deadly events of that day have been largely forgotten.
Wow. It's like a Twilight Zone episode thing where it happens to you, man. It took so much empathy for you to give that detailed answer instead of just saying, as I would have, Nagin, let it go. LAUGHTER
Wow. It's like a Twilight Zone episode thing where it happens to you, man. It took so much empathy for you to give that detailed answer instead of just saying, as I would have, Nagin, let it go. LAUGHTER
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He has more dignity than that, Josh. He has more dignity than that.
He has more dignity than that, Josh. He has more dignity than that.
He's the superior Josh G. You did tell the story in the book of one person who did not recognize you, which was the director David O. Russell.
He's the superior Josh G. You did tell the story in the book of one person who did not recognize you, which was the director David O. Russell.
What?
What?
I got to ask one thing. The book does cover some of your struggle. And one story I loved is when you applied as a young man when you were living in Florida to work at Disney.
I got to ask one thing. The book does cover some of your struggle. And one story I loved is when you applied as a young man when you were living in Florida to work at Disney.
And I was a skipper for a day. Thank you. But when David O. Russell got in that boat... Game over.
And I was a skipper for a day. Thank you. But when David O. Russell got in that boat... Game over.
Amazing. Well, Josh Gad, it is a pleasure to talk to you after seeing you do so many amazing things over the years. But we have asked you here to play a game we're calling... Josh Gad, meet Posh Lads. Oh, boy. So we've decided to ask you about Posh Lads, those fancy boys produced by British universities and boarding schools...
Amazing. Well, Josh Gad, it is a pleasure to talk to you after seeing you do so many amazing things over the years. But we have asked you here to play a game we're calling... Josh Gad, meet Posh Lads. Oh, boy. So we've decided to ask you about Posh Lads, those fancy boys produced by British universities and boarding schools...
Here's your first question. In 1805, posh lad and poet Lord Byron attended Cambridge University, but Cambridge wouldn't let him bring his dog with him as dogs were banned. So, Lord Byron, that scamp did what?
Here's your first question. In 1805, posh lad and poet Lord Byron attended Cambridge University, but Cambridge wouldn't let him bring his dog with him as dogs were banned. So, Lord Byron, that scamp did what?
So good to see you all. Um... I am going to be honest with you all. The year's not even half over, and we are already exhausted. So, inspired by the hit TV show, The White Lotus, we're going to take a week off. We're going to an exotic retreat, and we're going to work on our wellness. Oh, no. There's been a murder. Who could have seen this coming? Amen.
So good to see you all. Um... I am going to be honest with you all. The year's not even half over, and we are already exhausted. So, inspired by the hit TV show, The White Lotus, we're going to take a week off. We're going to an exotic retreat, and we're going to work on our wellness. Oh, no. There's been a murder. Who could have seen this coming? Amen.
Was it A, he kept a bear in his dorm room instead because nothing in the rules said he couldn't do that, B, he built a dog house 50 feet away just off school grounds with a tunnel connecting it to his room, or C, he submitted a fake application that got his dog hired as a professor?
Was it A, he kept a bear in his dorm room instead because nothing in the rules said he couldn't do that, B, he built a dog house 50 feet away just off school grounds with a tunnel connecting it to his room, or C, he submitted a fake application that got his dog hired as a professor?
Well, you think it's the bear? Well, you're right. It was the bear. He used to walk the bear around campus on a chain. All right, Josh, your next question. The famously elite Eaton College has a longstanding tradition called the Eaton Wall Game. It's a sort of combination of soccer and rugby, and it's played against this big brick wall.
Well, you think it's the bear? Well, you're right. It was the bear. He used to walk the bear around campus on a chain. All right, Josh, your next question. The famously elite Eaton College has a longstanding tradition called the Eaton Wall Game. It's a sort of combination of soccer and rugby, and it's played against this big brick wall.
You have? No, I lied to you. I understand that. There's an annual game between the fanciest King scholars and the rest of the school. It's a big deal. Even though which of these is true? A, the last time anyone scored a goal in the game was in 1909. B, the wall completely encloses the playing field so none of the spectators can actually see anything.
You have? No, I lied to you. I understand that. There's an annual game between the fanciest King scholars and the rest of the school. It's a big deal. Even though which of these is true? A, the last time anyone scored a goal in the game was in 1909. B, the wall completely encloses the playing field so none of the spectators can actually see anything.
Or C, the game is played with a 95-year-old ball that deflates if you kick it. I'm going to go with C. You're going to go with C, that is played with a 95-year-old ball. No, the answer is actually A. No one has scored a goal in this game for more than 100 years. Here's your last question. If you get this, you win. Here we go.
Or C, the game is played with a 95-year-old ball that deflates if you kick it. I'm going to go with C. You're going to go with C, that is played with a 95-year-old ball. No, the answer is actually A. No one has scored a goal in this game for more than 100 years. Here's your last question. If you get this, you win. Here we go.
Eden was founded in the year 1440, so obviously a lot has changed over the years. For example, in the 17th century, what was a rule imposed on all Etonians? A. Before exams, the headmaster inspected each boy to ensure his upper lip was sufficiently stiff. B. Students were forbidden from even learning the cleaning staff's first names.
Eden was founded in the year 1440, so obviously a lot has changed over the years. For example, in the 17th century, what was a rule imposed on all Etonians? A. Before exams, the headmaster inspected each boy to ensure his upper lip was sufficiently stiff. B. Students were forbidden from even learning the cleaning staff's first names.
Or C. For their health, all students were required to smoke before breakfast.
Or C. For their health, all students were required to smoke before breakfast.
We did it! They smoked tobacco. They were forced to smoke tobacco for their health. It probably protected them.
We did it! They smoked tobacco. They were forced to smoke tobacco for their health. It probably protected them.
I don't know.
I don't know.
When we come back, the taxidermist to the stars and a woman affectionately known as Big Gretch. That's when we return with more Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR.
When we come back, the taxidermist to the stars and a woman affectionately known as Big Gretch. That's when we return with more Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR.
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On the Code Switch podcast, 40 years ago, the Philadelphia Police Department carried out a bombing that destroyed a Black neighborhood on live TV. And yet the deadly events of that day have been largely forgotten.
On the Code Switch podcast, 40 years ago, the Philadelphia Police Department carried out a bombing that destroyed a Black neighborhood on live TV. And yet the deadly events of that day have been largely forgotten.
There is now a historic marker because a group of middle school children were assigned to look at police brutality in their community. Listen to the Code Switch podcast from the NPR Network.
There is now a historic marker because a group of middle school children were assigned to look at police brutality in their community. Listen to the Code Switch podcast from the NPR Network.
Thank you all so much. So right now, all of us at Weight Weight are off in a spa somewhere looking at custom reports on our biometrics and nodding along as if we understand them.
Thank you all so much. So right now, all of us at Weight Weight are off in a spa somewhere looking at custom reports on our biometrics and nodding along as if we understand them.
Our therapy for you, though, is some delightful conversations we've had in the past few months.
Our therapy for you, though, is some delightful conversations we've had in the past few months.
We saw that you were called taxidermist to the stars. What exactly does that mean? How did you earn that title?
We saw that you were called taxidermist to the stars. What exactly does that mean? How did you earn that title?
Can you describe, without breaking any confidences, what the kind of work you've done for some of these people?
Can you describe, without breaking any confidences, what the kind of work you've done for some of these people?
I'm sure the goat heads are very popular with the whole heavy metal genre, right? They all need their goat heads.
I'm sure the goat heads are very popular with the whole heavy metal genre, right? They all need their goat heads.
I mean, I think people should understand this, that when we're talking about your taxidermy, for the most part, we're not talking about what they're thinking of, which is like, I don't know, a deer head, you know, mounted above a bar or in a cabin somewhere. Could you describe your work and what makes it special?
I mean, I think people should understand this, that when we're talking about your taxidermy, for the most part, we're not talking about what they're thinking of, which is like, I don't know, a deer head, you know, mounted above a bar or in a cabin somewhere. Could you describe your work and what makes it special?
And congratulations on the book, which I devoured this week. Was it a little intimidating to write a memoir at the age of 43?
And congratulations on the book, which I devoured this week. Was it a little intimidating to write a memoir at the age of 43?
Yes, yes. I have so many questions. Let's just focus on Justin Long's raccoon with the cowboy hat and the finger guns.
Yes, yes. I have so many questions. Let's just focus on Justin Long's raccoon with the cowboy hat and the finger guns.
So you came up with it. Where did that come from? Were you like thinking about raccoons and going, you know what would make them even better?
So you came up with it. Where did that come from? Were you like thinking about raccoons and going, you know what would make them even better?
When kids across Spain were sprouting huge tufts of hair all over their bodies in what is scientifically called hypertrichinosis, but is funnifically called werewolf syndrome, their parents were concerned and jealous because these weren't just a bunch of random kids. They were the children of parents who suffer from baldness.
When kids across Spain were sprouting huge tufts of hair all over their bodies in what is scientifically called hypertrichinosis, but is funnifically called werewolf syndrome, their parents were concerned and jealous because these weren't just a bunch of random kids. They were the children of parents who suffer from baldness.
After extensive analysis, and don't worry, the analysis came with a celebrated 2 o'clock Spanish siesta, they found that a parent in each case had been taking minoxidil, the popular hair regrowth drug. That's right, the bushy crown dreams of a bunch of balding Spanish dudes led to an uptick in werewolf syndrome, an affliction so rare that it's only been documented 100 times since the Middle Ages.
After extensive analysis, and don't worry, the analysis came with a celebrated 2 o'clock Spanish siesta, they found that a parent in each case had been taking minoxidil, the popular hair regrowth drug. That's right, the bushy crown dreams of a bunch of balding Spanish dudes led to an uptick in werewolf syndrome, an affliction so rare that it's only been documented 100 times since the Middle Ages.
A spokesperson for minoxidil probably said, hey, we told you the drug works. We didn't say where it works.
A spokesperson for minoxidil probably said, hey, we told you the drug works. We didn't say where it works.
As wildlife levels drop across this great land of ours, one ecosystem that's been bucking the trend is the population of fish, frogs, and waterfowl in the area surrounding Florida's massive The Village's retirement community. And now, thanks to a new study, we know why.
As wildlife levels drop across this great land of ours, one ecosystem that's been bucking the trend is the population of fish, frogs, and waterfowl in the area surrounding Florida's massive The Village's retirement community. And now, thanks to a new study, we know why.
No, it's not reduced pollution from those newfangled Tesla mobility scooters, and it's not from all those oldsters feeding the ducks. No, according to the research, the cause for the burgeoning wildlife population is runoff from all that Viagra and Cialis in the wastewater. The sunfish are fun fish, the horny toads are hornier, and the ducks, well, you get the idea. Yeah.
No, it's not reduced pollution from those newfangled Tesla mobility scooters, and it's not from all those oldsters feeding the ducks. No, according to the research, the cause for the burgeoning wildlife population is runoff from all that Viagra and Cialis in the wastewater. The sunfish are fun fish, the horny toads are hornier, and the ducks, well, you get the idea. Yeah.
This unexpectedly virtuous and virile chemical spill is already causing ecologists to stand up and take notice. A proposed senior center near an important headwaters in Washington State now has the full support of the Audubon Society as a means of saving the salmon population. They've even got a slogan to promote senior sex. If you've got game, so will we. All right.
This unexpectedly virtuous and virile chemical spill is already causing ecologists to stand up and take notice. A proposed senior center near an important headwaters in Washington State now has the full support of the Audubon Society as a means of saving the salmon population. They've even got a slogan to promote senior sex. If you've got game, so will we. All right.
I'm ashamed to admit how often I've uttered that.
I'm ashamed to admit how often I've uttered that.
And thank you. Thank you so much.
And thank you. Thank you so much.
That is absolutely a problem at LAX.
That is absolutely a problem at LAX.
If only I could take a Lyft to get to the Uber lot.
If only I could take a Lyft to get to the Uber lot.
You know, they should do what cabs do. They're in a line, and then you just have to get into the first Uber you see. Right. And then you go to wherever that person paid for. You know, I feel like that's the solution.
You know, they should do what cabs do. They're in a line, and then you just have to get into the first Uber you see. Right. And then you go to wherever that person paid for. You know, I feel like that's the solution.
Oh, because the biscuit was on the steering wheel?
Oh, because the biscuit was on the steering wheel?
I feel like this story would be more respectable if he was just texting like the rest of us.
I feel like this story would be more respectable if he was just texting like the rest of us.
Go have a mayonnaise drink.
Go have a mayonnaise drink.
How can those work? Am I walking wrong? I can't think of anything that shorts covers that would help me walk.
How can those work? Am I walking wrong? I can't think of anything that shorts covers that would help me walk.
Are they like cargo robot shorts where they have extra pockets?
Are they like cargo robot shorts where they have extra pockets?
I was worried about that for a second. I understand.
I was worried about that for a second. I understand.
Can I get them in a variety of colors, or is it just a watch?
Can I get them in a variety of colors, or is it just a watch?
Is this an example of the fact that brain rot is taking hold, that the OED has made their word of the year two words? Yes. They don't just celebrate it.
Is this an example of the fact that brain rot is taking hold, that the OED has made their word of the year two words? Yes. They don't just celebrate it.
Well, you know, if you combine them, you're almost at a drinkable tuna melt.
Well, you know, if you combine them, you're almost at a drinkable tuna melt.
Wait, you would pair a glass of fish milk with fish?
Wait, you would pair a glass of fish milk with fish?
It's like pairing a cheeseburger with a glass of cheeseburger. I'm listening.
It's like pairing a cheeseburger with a glass of cheeseburger. I'm listening.
Well, when I first heard the term brain rot, I thought it was referring to the worms in RFK's brain.
Well, when I first heard the term brain rot, I thought it was referring to the worms in RFK's brain.
How the hunt for gangster Al Capone launched the IRS to power.
How the hunt for gangster Al Capone launched the IRS to power.
And then I realized that, like, by thinking that, I myself have exhibited brain rot.
And then I realized that, like, by thinking that, I myself have exhibited brain rot.
But thank you. Thank you very much, audience.
But thank you. Thank you very much, audience.
This is so stressful. How few to blow it?
This is so stressful. How few to blow it?
Wait, busted for stealing a car after she started doing car karaoke?
Wait, busted for stealing a car after she started doing car karaoke?
Yeah! Thank you so much.
Yeah! Thank you so much.
It was a pleasure beating you. Pleasure being beaten by you.
It was a pleasure beating you. Pleasure being beaten by you.
Middle School Cafe, where you can experience the thrill of puberty, incessant bullying, and crippling insecurity. And immersive acne comes with every meal.
Middle School Cafe, where you can experience the thrill of puberty, incessant bullying, and crippling insecurity. And immersive acne comes with every meal.
Adam Felber. In keeping with the endangered species theme, you could travel back to another era when you visit the Cafe Congressional Democrat.
Adam Felber. In keeping with the endangered species theme, you could travel back to another era when you visit the Cafe Congressional Democrat.
He was such a lifestyle influencer.
He was such a lifestyle influencer.
He really was. And why are you punctuating your text with all these little pictures, Henry?
He really was. And why are you punctuating your text with all these little pictures, Henry?
I'm obsessed with that, Thoreau.
I'm obsessed with that, Thoreau.
Wait, you're forgetting that last year it was riz, which means this word is already over. Like, we shouldn't even be saying it right now.
Wait, you're forgetting that last year it was riz, which means this word is already over. Like, we shouldn't even be saying it right now.
I know. He could be having so much more fun.
I know. He could be having so much more fun.
Start an OnlyFans. What are we doing? I'd subscribe.
Start an OnlyFans. What are we doing? I'd subscribe.
Come on, come on, of course.
Come on, come on, of course.
There aren't that many rainforest cafes left.
There aren't that many rainforest cafes left.
Yeah, there was like a massive deforestation. Exactly, as it were.
Yeah, there was like a massive deforestation. Exactly, as it were.
The Brazilian government did not want those cafes to stand.
The Brazilian government did not want those cafes to stand.
This is like a great panel for the subject.
This is like a great panel for the subject.
Oh, drinkable cream cheese.
Oh, drinkable cream cheese.
That's true. Butter. Drinkable butter.
That's true. Butter. Drinkable butter.
What? Mayonnaise. Mayonnaise.
What? Mayonnaise. Mayonnaise.
Yeah. As a white person, I'm a little embarrassed.
Yeah. As a white person, I'm a little embarrassed.
On the Code Switch podcast, 40 years ago, the Philadelphia Police Department carried out a bombing that destroyed a Black neighborhood on live TV. And yet the deadly events of that day have been largely forgotten.
Is there, like, do taxidermists have, like, their own aesthetic? Like, what makes a great taxidermy?
A good mount. Thank you.
How do you get anatomically correct models of animals or do you make them?
Tons of molds. I mean, obviously, you're so deeply invested in this. I have a problem with stuffed animals because whenever I look away, I assume they're moving their heads to stare at me. And I turn and I look back and they're immediately still again. I find it discomforting to be near all those completely still animals. It's creepy.
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It was an act of courage on my part. Well, Amber Maycott, we have invited you here to play a game we're calling They're Alive. So as we have been discussing, you specialize in putting deceased animals recreated in people's homes. So we thought we'd ask you about three instances of live animals getting in there. Get two to three right. You will win our prize for one of our listeners.
Are you ready to play? Sure. All right. Chioki, who is Amber Maycott playing for? Larry Gold of Minneapolis, Minnesota. All right. Minnesotans here. Here's your first question. An Australian family was surprised when a koala got into their house, especially because it took them a little while to notice it. Where was it? A, on their couch next to a throw pillow with a koala printed on it.
B, hanging on their Christmas tree as if pretending to be an ornament. Or C, sitting on top of their ceiling fan until that is they turned the ceiling fan on.
I'm going to go with A. You're going to go with A, that it was on their couch next to a koala throw pillow. And they were like, oh, I guess we have two koalas. Oh, you pick it up because you're choosing B, hanging on their Christmas tree?
That's right. Oh, wow. Nice. It was like hanging on the Christmas tree. They like trees. It makes sense, all right? Good. All right. Next question. Some people actually welcome wild animals into their homes, including some surprising people. Like which of these?
A, Britain's King Charles, who not only lets red squirrels into his Scottish estate, but leaves jackets hanging on chairs with nuts in the pockets for them to find. B, Jamie Foxx, who has a deal with local animal control for them to bring any captured foxes, naturally, to his house. Or C, Peyton Manning, who learned to imitate six different mating calls so he could attract animals to his patio.
Yeah, that'll do it. Now, the question I often ask people like you who've done so many different things is, what do you most recognize for? And you say in the book that you wish you had used a different voice for Olaf the snowman because whenever you're talking in public, children hear you and go insane.
I'll go with A. You can go with A. Britain's King Charles, you're right. Yeah. He loves those red squirrels. He says, sometimes when I leave my jackets on a chair with nuts in the pockets, I see them with their tails sticking out as they hunt for nuts. They're incredibly special creatures. All right. Last question. You're doing very well. It's not just houses that can have trouble with wildlife.
A high school in Little Rock had a bat infestation but dealt with it quickly and decisively. Just by doing what? A, changing their mascot from the running rebels to the fighting bats. B, enrolling the bats as students, which allowed them access to state funds to get rid of the bats. Or C, just ceding control of the school to the bats and making all classes remote for a while.
C. Yes, exactly right. It took them about four days to clear out the bats and clean up everything and bring the students back.
She is a winner. Well done.
Amber Maycutt is a taxidermist to the stars and the founder of Brooklyn Taxidermy. You can see her work at brooklyntaxidermy.com. I recommend it highly. Amber, well, thank you so much for being on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Take care. Bye-bye.
I asked her how she came to embrace that handle.
Right.
If there's not, if there might be somebody in the audience who's not as au courant with Detroit hip hop as you and I. It came from a, but it was bestowed upon you by a rapper, a Detroit rapper named G-Mac, right?
Right, and for people who don't know it, I'm not going to attempt to perform it, but the chorus is, throw the buffs on her face, because that's Big Gretch. We ain't about to stress, we got Big Gretch. You can find her in the press under Big Gretch. Fresh in a new dress, yeah, that's Big Gretch.
And you said you weren't going to perform. It's almost like GMAT Cash is here with us.
It really is.
Sticking with nicknames for a second, you mention in the book that you've had other nicknames before Big Gretch, one of which was Gravity Gretcheth.
And could you tell us how you got that particular nickname?
And what did you do to anger God thusly? I don't know.
Thank you.
Something for the next book.
Since we brought it up, I have to ask you about another time you fell down or at least were found on the ground in high school, which again I think is a unique story among America's governors. I was wondering if you could share that.
I get that. But in the telling of that story, which as you say is inspirational both in terms of its effect on your life and I think hopefully to the many young people who might read the book, there was a detail that you left out just now. Which is when the principal found you.
Didn't you like... Oh, I threw up on him.
I gotta tell you, this all sounds like Big Gretch Bay. It really does.
It really does. Continuing, this is great, because one of the interesting things about your life is that we can tell it via nicknames. Another famous one, of course, you can find it on merch, That Woman from Michigan. which was bestowed upon you by President Trump, or as I guess we should call him, President Trump 1.0. It must be exciting. Are you hoping for a new nickname in the second term?
All right. But, you know, the T-shirt printers are ready in case it comes up with something.
Governor Whitmer, it is an absolute thrill to be able to talk to you here in Detroit. As we have with so many important people, we have invited you here to play a game that this time we are calling... Check out these not-so-Great Lakes. So Michigan, as I'm sure you know, is the Great Lakes state.
Yeah. LAUGHTER So we thought we'd ask you about some not-so-great lakes, that is, much, much smaller bodies of water. Answer two or three questions about tiny lakes correctly, and you will win our prize. One of our listeners, the voice of anyone they might choose for our show. Bill, who is Governor Whitmer playing for?
Are you ready to do this? I'm ready. Here's your first question. One of the smallest bodies of water you can find is, of course, a hot tub. And if you happen to have a hot tub outside of your house in Monrovia, California in the 1990s, you had to watch out for what? A, a brand new STD that evolved in the heated water called Jacuzzi Rhea.
B, Samson the hot tub bear, a 500-pound black bear who loved ending his day in somebody's hot tub. Or C, a business called Peeping Tim's Aerial Hot Tub Helicopter Tours.
You just knew.
You just had a feeling because of your knowledge of hot tubs, your knowledge of bears, both, neither. All of the above. All of the above, yes. All right. That was very good, Governor. Here's your next question. Puddles. Harmless little bodies of water, but they can cause problems from time to time, as in when which of these happened?
A, a Japanese government official got in trouble for making a subordinate give him a piggyback ride over a puddle. B, a single puddle caused a massive traffic jam in Texas when a cyber truck rolled through it and shorted it out. Or C, a Florida billionaire got caught trying to get a tax break by calling a puddle on his property an endangered wetland.
I mean, I think it's A. You think it's A, the Japanese government official. You're right. Oh. You're right. This happened back in 2016. Thank you.
There you go. Yeah, okay, there's some people. So I myself have never watched the show. Why is that surprising? Who is Bearclaw?
And there was this big typhoon that damaged, and the minister in charge of emergency relief showed up, and there was a big puddle, and he says he forgot to bring his overshoes, so he had a subordinate pick him up and carry him through the puddle, which did not go over well with the Japanese public. I had to apologize. All right, that's very good. You have one more.
Let's see if you can be perfect here. The largest public swimming pool ever... we think, was the Fleischhacker public pool in San Francisco. It was so enormous during its heyday that what once happened? A, it was taken over by a pod of gray whales. B, it had to close twice a day for low tide. Or C, they had to put lifeguards out to patrol the pool in rowboats. C. That's right. Wow.
It was an enormous pool, now closed, now gone. Those with seawater piped in from the ocean next door, they say, could accommodate 10,000 people at once. Bill, how did Governor Whitmer do in our quiz? She's perfect.
Yes.
Gretchen Whitmer is the governor of Michigan. Her new book, True Gretch, is available now. It's a hoot and a half. Governor Gretchen Whitmer, thank you so much for joining us.
When we come back, two of the humans behind the heavy metal aliens of GWAR and a singer-songwriter with a very special connection to me. That's when we come back with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR.
Thank you, Bill. Thank you. So by this time, at the exotic spa where we're spending the week, we've had the massages, the yoga, the meditation, and frankly, none of us are feeling any better.
Well, you work on that, Bill. Here are two more treatments for our audience in the form of music therapy, by which we mean interviews with musicians.
We were joined by Mike Bishop and Mike Dirks, who did something they almost never do. They got up on stage without their elaborate costumes and makeup. So I started by asking them to describe their band.
It's a theatrical shock rock, shock heavy metal band that is very performative on stage. And we are a theatrical show that involves a lot of costuming and set pieces and phony executions.
Oh, that old saw. Quite literally. They use a saw sometimes.
We're also from outer space, though. We have a more narrative.
Right. And you two were right there in the beginning. And when you joined the band, did you pick your own characters?
Balzac, the Jaws of Death.
And Bishop, who are you on stage?
So originally, I was Beefcake the Mighty, who was the bass player.
Beefcake has some fans here.
Yeah, and now I am the singer following the passing of the original lead singer, Dave Brockie, who everybody knows and loves. I came back, and now I play the Berserker Blothar.
The Berserker Blothar. And for people who haven't seen it, these costumes you wear are not just... I mean, like the guys from Kiss, for example, are just amateurs when it comes to you guys. You've got, like, enormous headpieces and huge full-body costumes that often have... shall we say, over-the-top anatomy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
This is not your first time at NPR because, famously, GWAR did a tiny desk concert. This is true. And, by the way, I recommend everybody watch this. When you walked into NPR headquarters in the full GWAR regalia, what was the reaction from our colleagues there? It was enthusiastic. LAUGHTER
Wait a minute, what do you mean?
It'd be like, hey, Scott Simon, could you step out of the office just for a second? Yeah, yeah. Sylvia. And you, GWAR, very popular in Richmond, of course, and you even have a GWAR bar. We do. Yeah. People have been here for fans. And Dierks, you work there sometimes, right?
Right. And do people ever come in? I presume they're GWAR fans.
Well, Mike Dirks and Mike Bishop, we have invited you here to play a game we're calling... You guys are Gwar.
We're going to ask you about Jaguars. Answer two out of three questions about Jaguars of various kinds. You'll win a prize for one of our listeners. Choki, who are Mike and Mike playing for?
All right. One down, lady. If you win, maybe she'll come by the bar to thank you. All right, here we go. Now, the Jacksonville Jaguars are an NFL team that's had some good seasons, but they have also been Very unlucky, including one year when their punter suffered a unique injury. What was it? A, he bet somebody he could punt a 35-pound kettlebell and broke all his toes.
B, he accidentally chopped himself in the leg with the inspirational axe kept in the locker room. Or C, he joined the team's cheerleaders for a kick line and ruptured his groin on the first kick.
C sounds real.
The kicker joining a kick line?
Broke his toes. So let me get this right. Dierks, you're picking he broke his toes trying to punt a kettlebell. And Bishop, you're choosing he got in the kick line with a Julie. It was actually the other one. The coach kept an axe and a stump in the locker room to inspire his team to, quote, keep chopping. What does that have to do with Jaguars? And one day, the punter did.
All right, that's okay, guys. You still have two more chances. Here is your next question. The Jacksonville Jaguars mascot is Jackson DeVille. It's a person in a skintight suit and a big jaguar head. And he has been so innovative in the mascot arts that he has actually inspired a rule change for all mascots across the NFL. What is that rule change?
A, no mascot may ever mime intimate acts with the other team's mascot. B, all mascots must be drug tested before each half. Or C, no mascot may get closer than six feet to the field of play, especially not if they are carrying a life-size dummy of the opponent's quarterback that they intend to stomp on midfield.
Can I ask a question about Olaf? Yes. So I have a six-year-old daughter. So your voice is like in my apartment all the time. And I, you're great.
Maybe it was. That's the real answer, of course. The... The rule arose from an incident in a game against the Steelers in 1998. Okay, let's start talking about real jaguars. According to the scientists who work at a wildlife reserve in Guatemala, the best way to attract one of the big cats that can do it without fail is to do what? A, turn on music by Kenny G, which the jaguars find irresistible.
B, where lots of obsession by Calvin Klein... which draws them like flies, or C, dress like Jackson DeVille, the Jacksonville Jaguars mascot?
I bet it's Kenny G, man.
Oh, wow. The audience is saying... B. B. The audience is shouting B. Session. Session by Calvin Klein.
Well, they've got that thing where they go...
So you're going to go for B? Yes, that's right. Congratulations, everyone.
Finally, in October of last year, we hosted the singer-songwriter Cara Jackson, a former Illinois and then national youth poet laureate.
Thanks for having me. Now, I have left off. what I think of as one of the most important items on your resume, which is that you were one of the starting players on the Angels, an eight-year-old girl's t-ball team in Oak Park, which I coached. Yeah. So... A little nervous about the answer. What do you remember about...
Coach coach Sagal on the on the Angels and being on the Angels, you know, I was pretty good at t-ball I've gotta say I was just really tall Yeah, I feel like some people struggled like there were some people where it was like they were shorter so they had to like You know lower the tea. Yeah, but the taller kids they would make it bigger and everyone would be like back up like I
There really is no better feeling, I imagine, than coming to bat with the tee and all the other players.
Yeah, I feel like I'm still chasing that high, honestly.
Right? So you moved from tee ball to poetry and were named the Chicago Youth Poet Laureate while you were still in high school. Do you remember any of those early poems?
What kind of relationship do you have with the parents of the children that go nuts?
Well, unfortunately for me, a part of the Youth Poet Laureate program in the city, every poet laureate is responsible for writing a chapbook, so like a mini book of poems. So I have, you know, a living archive of all the poems I wrote at that time.
Right.
Do you ever go back and look at them and how do you feel about them? I think it's been a minute since I've looked back at them, but I think I have mixed emotions. Sometimes it's cringy just because I think that having a living record of things you thought as a teenager would just be cringy probably for everyone here.
You know, it's also like a chance for me that I'm trying to do better the older I get to also treat my younger self with care and appreciate what I was doing at that age, because I think you take for granted a lot.
Yeah, my advice would be go to that young girl you once were and give her a snack and a juice box, because it always worked.
Yeah, the after the game snacks.
Oh, the best part of T-ball.
So good.
I can see we're never going to get off that topic. You then became, and I remember hearing about this and being very impressed, the National Youth Poet Laureate.
Yeah.
Right, and what kind of, I mean, that sounds like a serious post. What kind of obligations, duties, ceremony, or otherwise come with it?
Yeah, so when I became the Youth Poet Laureate, I was the third one. So I think the program was still kind of establishing itself in terms of what it entails as a role. I think it was still kind of, you know, becoming a real tangible thing.
Yeah.
I don't know. I really think I only look at the new ones with admiration because they're younger than me. Either way, I think I would never trade places with someone who's, like, 19. Like, no matter what I'm going through. Yeah, yeah. But...
And you're 25 right now.
Yeah. Okay. Almost 25. In a couple weeks.
You're not 25 yet? She's 24.
24 and a half. Let's talk about your music.
So you have a song about the various losers you've dated. It's called Head Blues. It's pretty scathing, and I'm wondering, what has that done for your social life?
I don't know, because I think that I am really associated with like-minded people, so I think it maybe only enhanced it. I feel like... for people who needed that song, they really leaned into it. And it's been fun to travel and perform that one in front of many different audiences. I had to perform at the U.S. Ambassador in London, and I did that song for the U.S. Ambassador.
And she was really cool with it. I feel like she maybe related, possibly. And the response was positive? Yeah.
Yeah, well, there you are.
The ambassador was like, right on, right on. He said, yeah, girl.
Get them, Glo.
Well, Kara Jackson, it is great to talk to you, and we've invited you here to play a game we're calling... It's a, yes, fun party. So, you wrote a song called No Fun Party. Yes. So, based on that, we thought we'd ask you about some really fun parties. Answer two to three questions correctly, you'll win our prize. One of our listeners, the voice of anyone they might choose for their voicemail.
Bill, who is Kara Jackson playing for?
okay yeah first question uh the former executive of a company called tyco was sent to prison back in the day for stealing money from his company to fund his lavish lifestyle including a 2002 birthday party for his wife which included which of these a each guest getting a new mercedes-benz in a giant bag as they departed be an ice sculpture of michelangelo's david that dispensed vodka from his little david
Or C, a musical background of instrumental versions of U2 songs played during the cocktail hour by U2? I feel like... maybe it's B? It is B. So if you think about it, it's sort of like a spigot, right? The ice sculptor? Anyway... Here is your next question. A British woman named Ivy Smalls celebrated her 105th birthday back in 2016. She only had one request for the party. What was it?
A, life-size blown-up photos of all her enemies that she had outlived.
B, hunky firefighters with tattoos. Or C, pot brownies. Hmm. The first one speaks to me the most, so I'm going to go with A. Life-size photos of all the people she had outlived. No, it was actually hunky firefighters with tattoos.
Really?
Yeah, that's what she wanted. All right, here's your last question. Get this right, you win. Colleges are known, of course, for huge parties, and in 2017, one house party at a college in Maryland became such a rager that what happened? A. NBA scouts showed up just to recruit from the beer pong games.
B, when the cops came to bust up their party, their breathalyzers all went off just from the air inside the house. Or C, the party became so big it could be seen from space.
Yeah, I'm going to go with B. Sorry in advance to this person. You're right again.
The air was so thick with alcohol that the breathalyzers on their belts started beeping.
Kara Jackson is an award-winning poet and the celebrated singer-songwriter behind Why Does the Earth Give Us People to Love? And speaking from personal experience, she's a contact hitter who can hit with power to all fields. Kara Jackson, thank you so much for joining us on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. That's it for our Wellness Retreat Edition.
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Wow. It's like a Twilight Zone episode thing where it happens to you, man. It took so much empathy for you to give that detailed answer instead of just saying, as I would have, Nagin, let it go. LAUGHTER
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He has more dignity than that, Josh. He has more dignity than that.
He's the superior Josh G. You did tell the story in the book of one person who did not recognize you, which was the director David O. Russell.
What?
I got to ask one thing. The book does cover some of your struggle. And one story I loved is when you applied as a young man when you were living in Florida to work at Disney.
And I was a skipper for a day. Thank you. But when David O. Russell got in that boat... Game over.
Amazing. Well, Josh Gad, it is a pleasure to talk to you after seeing you do so many amazing things over the years. But we have asked you here to play a game we're calling... Josh Gad, meet Posh Lads. Oh, boy. So we've decided to ask you about Posh Lads, those fancy boys produced by British universities and boarding schools...
Here's your first question. In 1805, posh lad and poet Lord Byron attended Cambridge University, but Cambridge wouldn't let him bring his dog with him as dogs were banned. So, Lord Byron, that scamp did what?
So good to see you all. Um... I am going to be honest with you all. The year's not even half over, and we are already exhausted. So, inspired by the hit TV show, The White Lotus, we're going to take a week off. We're going to an exotic retreat, and we're going to work on our wellness. Oh, no. There's been a murder. Who could have seen this coming? Amen.
Was it A, he kept a bear in his dorm room instead because nothing in the rules said he couldn't do that, B, he built a dog house 50 feet away just off school grounds with a tunnel connecting it to his room, or C, he submitted a fake application that got his dog hired as a professor?
Well, you think it's the bear? Well, you're right. It was the bear. He used to walk the bear around campus on a chain. All right, Josh, your next question. The famously elite Eaton College has a longstanding tradition called the Eaton Wall Game. It's a sort of combination of soccer and rugby, and it's played against this big brick wall.
You have? No, I lied to you. I understand that. There's an annual game between the fanciest King scholars and the rest of the school. It's a big deal. Even though which of these is true? A, the last time anyone scored a goal in the game was in 1909. B, the wall completely encloses the playing field so none of the spectators can actually see anything.
Or C, the game is played with a 95-year-old ball that deflates if you kick it. I'm going to go with C. You're going to go with C, that is played with a 95-year-old ball. No, the answer is actually A. No one has scored a goal in this game for more than 100 years. Here's your last question. If you get this, you win. Here we go.
Eden was founded in the year 1440, so obviously a lot has changed over the years. For example, in the 17th century, what was a rule imposed on all Etonians? A. Before exams, the headmaster inspected each boy to ensure his upper lip was sufficiently stiff. B. Students were forbidden from even learning the cleaning staff's first names.
Or C. For their health, all students were required to smoke before breakfast.
We did it! They smoked tobacco. They were forced to smoke tobacco for their health. It probably protected them.
I don't know.
When we come back, the taxidermist to the stars and a woman affectionately known as Big Gretch. That's when we return with more Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR.
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Thank you all so much. So right now, all of us at Weight Weight are off in a spa somewhere looking at custom reports on our biometrics and nodding along as if we understand them.
Our therapy for you, though, is some delightful conversations we've had in the past few months.
We saw that you were called taxidermist to the stars. What exactly does that mean? How did you earn that title?
Can you describe, without breaking any confidences, what the kind of work you've done for some of these people?
I'm sure the goat heads are very popular with the whole heavy metal genre, right? They all need their goat heads.
I mean, I think people should understand this, that when we're talking about your taxidermy, for the most part, we're not talking about what they're thinking of, which is like, I don't know, a deer head, you know, mounted above a bar or in a cabin somewhere. Could you describe your work and what makes it special?
And congratulations on the book, which I devoured this week. Was it a little intimidating to write a memoir at the age of 43?
Yes, yes. I have so many questions. Let's just focus on Justin Long's raccoon with the cowboy hat and the finger guns.
So you came up with it. Where did that come from? Were you like thinking about raccoons and going, you know what would make them even better?
Is it a zero-sum game of niceness?
Do you know that that mill is closing down? So the aroma of Tacoma is going away in the next few months. So sniff it while you got it, people.
Oh, you are scrupulous.
Well, it must be comforting knowing, like, that's not real. There's not a cat and a devil here. Like, I might as well just keep running. There's no threat, you know? Yeah.
It's the calories though, right?
Well, normally she just got the two points, but every one of the toes that she sacrificed is actually worth a quarter point. So we're just going to give you a perfect score.
Nicely done. Yay.
We're very happy that you were so unhappy at that point. You are a style and fashion icon, in addition to, we'll get to the performing and stuff that you do, but I'm really, as somebody who, you can't see me, Billy, but I am wearing an extremely boring outfit.
Wow.
Just to follow up on that, Billy, Peter's outfit right now, he bought at whitesisheteroman.com.
That's amazing. You do belong on PBS.
He kind of looks like he's about to ask us... He looks like he's about to ask us to leave the restaurant.
Adam, you can stay. But no, Billy. Oh, my God, that's hilarious. My question was going to be, you're always sort of pushing the envelope, and every time you have a look, it goes in a new direction, and it sort of stakes out new ground. Do you feel sort of pressure every time you have a new event? Like, what is it like for you to sit with a designer and think, what are we going to do next?
How am I going to top my last thing? Or do you even feel that?
yeah what options to give you yeah can i ask a question whenever i see people on the red carpet there's always someone skulking behind them like tugging at a hem or something or you know what i mean like positioning the gap who is that person and what is the name of that and how did they get into that job i just really want to tug at things for a living that's really that's really funny
Oh, I know. Since COVID, you don't have a whole lot of people.
Well, also... Billy, many of your outfits are very large. They take up a lot of space. You're a perfect person for the COVID era because if you're wearing, you know. Totally.
Are there any things that you've worn on the red carpet that's like extremely fashionable and extremely stylish but also extremely uncomfortable that then like during the award ceremony or the event that you're in, you're just like, I'm going to change into some sweatpants because I'm going to sit here for three hours. I can't be sitting in this like birdcage looking cape thing or whatever.
The hat that I wore to the Grammys that opened and closed. For people who don't know, it was this hat that sort of had this, it was like a 180 degree sort of curtain that was motorized, and he's saying it was very heavy, and it motorized and it just opened up like a curtain in front of his face.
I was going to say, you're a singer, you're an actor, you're a director, you have a degree in screenwriting. Is there anything that you're bad at?
So you're in this new movie, 80 for Brady, about four women in their 80s who go see Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. Can you tell us about it?
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I mean, that has to be correct. That is, well... Yeah. More specifically, a lot of the males became unattractive.
Yeah. It's just not appealing to a female of any species.
A smilodon? Yes. That's so adorable. That's like a children's story.
How do you know that?
I'm not sure what level these books are. Because really, there's one wherein it said, don't talk to scientists who study this and mention saber-toothed tiger because they will just lose it. Yeah. That's ridiculous. I would like, wait, wait, don't tell me it has a website, doesn't it? I believe we do, yes. Okay. I want to see. A copy of the book. That cautions the reader. The young reader.
I'm assuming, how old is your son that you're reading this book to? My son is four. Oh, yeah. You're not one of those parents who's already pushing your kid to get into college, are you? All right, I want you to go to college, but here's a tip. When you get in there... Do not. For the love of God, yeah. Your mother and I love you very much, but there's one thing up with which we cannot put.
Coming up, it's like... Wait a minute, coming up. What's the name of the book?
I just made these little DJ cards.
I'm like, oh, I see why they did that.
That song legit slaps. So I heard this weird factoid about you.
Plastic surgeon Shen Wenong recorded himself performing his own vasectomy as a gift to his wife. Not realizing, presumably, that there are services that can help men choose unique and treasured gifts. A vasectomy is a form of birth control in which the surgeon cuts and seals the tubes that carry sperm. And although a vasectomy is an effective means of birth control, so are mutton chops.
In the tutorial video, the doctor slash patient applied anesthetic cream to numb his genitals before having at them with a scalpel and surgical clamp to perform the surgery, during which he only once seized with pain, perhaps thinking, roses, she might have liked roses.
You know, there's a man who gave himself a vasectomy and filmed it. And it got 4 million views.
Well, if you can find a man who will do that while you play the ukulele... I'm curious. You just...
But it still doesn't matter. It's the passion of what you're doing, and I wouldn't get tripped up by that if I were you.
You know, you should write a song about reading the comments. Ooh, I should.
Wow. How much money do these people have?
And do they both go to each of them?
I think it's just like a stand-in. You know, Bob would be here, but he doesn't enjoy a big wedding.
Don't have to clean the restroom.
I can attest to that. My bronze medal is gone.
Which one? Is there more than one? There is. The big one over on the left.
After her blank got caught in her office chair. Yes. I don't know, her hair.
Yeah, that's just, yeah, you shouldn't, see, that's telling you no about that.
And Paula Poundstone. These office chairs are so grabby.
I mean, that's what I mean. It's really cold out, but I didn't want those balls anyways.
You know, Peter, the truth is the boomer asking thing would never work on me.
Because if somebody asked me how I was, I would just keep telling them. That's true. I have a tendency. I'm one of the most selfish people I've ever met in my life. If someone comes to my house, which they rarely do because I'm very selfish, but if someone comes to my house, you know, I'll be eating and drinking the whole time they're there. I'll have a soda. I'll eat some chips.
And it's not until they're on the way out the door that I realize, oh, geez, did you want anything to eat?
Yeah. Okay. The guy who, the travel guy?
Is he kind of tall with red hair and big feet?
I mean, if you're really trying to meet the locals, why not go to their DMV? You know? That's actually a pretty good question. Very good. Why not just cut off your hand and spend some time in their medical system?
When kids across Spain were sprouting huge tufts of hair all over their bodies in what is scientifically called hypertrichinosis, but is funnifically called werewolf syndrome, their parents were concerned and jealous because these weren't just a bunch of random kids. They were the children of parents who suffer from baldness.
After extensive analysis, and don't worry, the analysis came with a celebrated 2 o'clock Spanish siesta, they found that a parent in each case had been taking minoxidil, the popular hair regrowth drug. That's right, the bushy crown dreams of a bunch of balding Spanish dudes led to an uptick in werewolf syndrome, an affliction so rare that it's only been documented 100 times since the Middle Ages.
A spokesperson for minoxidil probably said, hey, we told you the drug works. We didn't say where it works.
As wildlife levels drop across this great land of ours, one ecosystem that's been bucking the trend is the population of fish, frogs, and waterfowl in the area surrounding Florida's massive The Village's retirement community. And now, thanks to a new study, we know why.
No, it's not reduced pollution from those newfangled Tesla mobility scooters, and it's not from all those oldsters feeding the ducks. No, according to the research, the cause for the burgeoning wildlife population is runoff from all that Viagra and Cialis in the wastewater. The sunfish are fun fish, the horny toads are hornier, and the ducks, well, you get the idea. Yeah.
This unexpectedly virtuous and virile chemical spill is already causing ecologists to stand up and take notice. A proposed senior center near an important headwaters in Washington State now has the full support of the Audubon Society as a means of saving the salmon population. They've even got a slogan to promote senior sex. If you've got game, so will we. All right.
I'm ashamed to admit how often I've uttered that.
And thank you. Thank you so much.
That is absolutely a problem at LAX.
If only I could take a Lyft to get to the Uber lot.
You know, they should do what cabs do. They're in a line, and then you just have to get into the first Uber you see. Right. And then you go to wherever that person paid for. You know, I feel like that's the solution.
Oh, because the biscuit was on the steering wheel?
I feel like this story would be more respectable if he was just texting like the rest of us.
Go have a mayonnaise drink.
How can those work? Am I walking wrong? I can't think of anything that shorts covers that would help me walk.
Are they like cargo robot shorts where they have extra pockets?
I was worried about that for a second. I understand.
Can I get them in a variety of colors, or is it just a watch?
Is this an example of the fact that brain rot is taking hold, that the OED has made their word of the year two words? Yes. They don't just celebrate it.
Well, you know, if you combine them, you're almost at a drinkable tuna melt.
Wait, you would pair a glass of fish milk with fish?
It's like pairing a cheeseburger with a glass of cheeseburger. I'm listening.
Well, when I first heard the term brain rot, I thought it was referring to the worms in RFK's brain.
How the hunt for gangster Al Capone launched the IRS to power.
And then I realized that, like, by thinking that, I myself have exhibited brain rot.
But thank you. Thank you very much, audience.
This is so stressful. How few to blow it?
Wait, busted for stealing a car after she started doing car karaoke?
Yeah! Thank you so much.
It was a pleasure beating you. Pleasure being beaten by you.
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Adam Felber. In keeping with the endangered species theme, you could travel back to another era when you visit the Cafe Congressional Democrat.
He was such a lifestyle influencer.
He really was. And why are you punctuating your text with all these little pictures, Henry?
I'm obsessed with that, Thoreau.
Wait, you're forgetting that last year it was riz, which means this word is already over. Like, we shouldn't even be saying it right now.
I know. He could be having so much more fun.
Start an OnlyFans. What are we doing? I'd subscribe.
Come on, come on, of course.
There aren't that many rainforest cafes left.
Yeah, there was like a massive deforestation. Exactly, as it were.
The Brazilian government did not want those cafes to stand.
This is like a great panel for the subject.
Oh, drinkable cream cheese.
That's true. Butter. Drinkable butter.
What? Mayonnaise. Mayonnaise.
Yeah. As a white person, I'm a little embarrassed.