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What I don't understand is, who did you hate? Did you hate women?

What I don't understand is, who did you hate? Did you hate women?

Because it seemed like you might have hated women.

Because it seemed like you might have hated women.

Does it help that part of you as well to talk about it?

Does it help that part of you as well to talk about it?

Richard was waiting for me to walk back, and he was hanging with two arms through the bars.

Richard was waiting for me to walk back, and he was hanging with two arms through the bars.

And then we just stood and looked at each other. And he said, and your name? And then I didn't answer. I stood there looking at him. And he said, and your name? And then I went, Arlene Beiner. He went, I'm so pleased to meet you. And I said, you and the gentleman look good in person.

And then we just stood and looked at each other. And he said, and your name? And then I didn't answer. I stood there looking at him. And he said, and your name? And then I went, Arlene Beiner. He went, I'm so pleased to meet you. And I said, you and the gentleman look good in person.

Yeah. It's just many times in a lot of the psychiatric stuff that I've read and been looking at, even connected with other serial killers, there's been some sort of trauma in somebody's childhood, and even one that they won't even admit and sometimes that they forget.

Yeah. It's just many times in a lot of the psychiatric stuff that I've read and been looking at, even connected with other serial killers, there's been some sort of trauma in somebody's childhood, and even one that they won't even admit and sometimes that they forget.

Yeah, but there's got to be a reason why you ended up doing what you did. And it's not as simple as drinking, because what you did isn't as simple as what other people do when they drink.

Yeah, but there's got to be a reason why you ended up doing what you did. And it's not as simple as drinking, because what you did isn't as simple as what other people do when they drink.

When we get down to the point where you've got a missing nine-year-old kid who's six blocks from his home and disappears when he's at the corner store getting an ice cream or a candy bar, you've got a big problem.

When we get down to the point where you've got a missing nine-year-old kid who's six blocks from his home and disappears when he's at the corner store getting an ice cream or a candy bar, you've got a big problem.

I got another phone call. Mrs. Rosenfeld, I'm sorry, I guess that was your boy after all. That was the death notification. Our lives as we knew them died with Darren.

I got another phone call. Mrs. Rosenfeld, I'm sorry, I guess that was your boy after all. That was the death notification. Our lives as we knew them died with Darren.

This was a horrific, completely unbelievable revelation that a government had entered into an agreement with a serial killer and paid him to return the bodies of his victims.

This was a horrific, completely unbelievable revelation that a government had entered into an agreement with a serial killer and paid him to return the bodies of his victims.