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And what are we going to do with them?

We have them.

We have to take care of them.

We have to find a way.

And it's hard right now with everything that's going on.

People are even afraid to come out of their houses to work.

It's really bad.

And especially with everything going on with the president saying that we have to hang in there.

How are we going to hang in there with the kids?

Like, there's no way at all.

Thanksgiving coming up.

Especially imagine the people.

It's not fair for anybody.

I mean, what can we say?

On this week's episode of The Next Chapter, I, TD Jakes, get to sit down with Oprah Winfrey, a media mogul, philanthropist, and global trailblazer.

I could feel inside myself at four or five years old, looking through the screen on the back porch, that this is not going to be my life.

Listen to the next chapter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast episodes drop weekly.

On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.

I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician.

And I'm Hari Kundabolu, a comedian and someone who once Googled, do I have scurvy at 3 a.m.?