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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

And if it was $120 billion valuation with $3 million in revenue, Chamath, and you're trading at 40x or whatever it is times next year's revenue, let's assume they do $5 billion next year, you're still looking at 30x revenue, you would clear.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

And if it was $120 billion valuation with $3 million in revenue, Chamath, and you're trading at 40x or whatever it is times next year's revenue, let's assume they do $5 billion next year, you're still looking at 30x revenue, you would clear.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

What was your take on that, by the way, Jim? That was interesting.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

What was your take on that, by the way, Jim? That was interesting.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

Okay, so to summarize, a bit cynical, but you're building an ally base that then makes it harder to investigate the company, criticize the company, or anything like that, right? That's essentially what you're saying.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

Okay, so to summarize, a bit cynical, but you're building an ally base that then makes it harder to investigate the company, criticize the company, or anything like that, right? That's essentially what you're saying.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

What's your take on that, Sax?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

What's your take on that, Sax?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

Yeah, and the number of CIA, former CIA, former FBI, Justice Department people working at the Googles, Facebooks, Metas, Apples of the world is like a very large number. I have family, as many of you know, in law enforcement and in the deep state, I guess. I should call it sex. And they are constantly asking me about job offers they have from these companies and which one should they go to.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

Yeah, and the number of CIA, former CIA, former FBI, Justice Department people working at the Googles, Facebooks, Metas, Apples of the world is like a very large number. I have family, as many of you know, in law enforcement and in the deep state, I guess. I should call it sex. And they are constantly asking me about job offers they have from these companies and which one should they go to.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

This is after they've done tours in Afghanistan and, you know, speaking many different foreign languages. And then all of a sudden they secure this incredible, you know, 3X job. salary bump by working in big tech. So there is something to all of this. Ilya announced his new startup. Finally, it's called Safe Super Intelligence Inc, or SSI.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

This is after they've done tours in Afghanistan and, you know, speaking many different foreign languages. And then all of a sudden they secure this incredible, you know, 3X job. salary bump by working in big tech. So there is something to all of this. Ilya announced his new startup. Finally, it's called Safe Super Intelligence Inc, or SSI.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

He was obviously an OpenAI co-founder, formerly the chief scientist and co-head of Super Alignment. Last month, he announced he was resigning from OpenAI after a decade with the company. And you remember, he was on the board that helped orchestrate Sam Waltman's firing, and then he reversed course a few days after and expressed regret in it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

He was obviously an OpenAI co-founder, formerly the chief scientist and co-head of Super Alignment. Last month, he announced he was resigning from OpenAI after a decade with the company. And you remember, he was on the board that helped orchestrate Sam Waltman's firing, and then he reversed course a few days after and expressed regret in it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

Everybody was asking, where's Ilya doing all of this on Twitter. The co-founders in SSI include Daniel Gross, a YC partner, and Pioneer Labs co-founder and OpenAI engineer Daniel Levy. Company's goal right now is in the title, develop a safe superintelligence.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

Everybody was asking, where's Ilya doing all of this on Twitter. The co-founders in SSI include Daniel Gross, a YC partner, and Pioneer Labs co-founder and OpenAI engineer Daniel Levy. Company's goal right now is in the title, develop a safe superintelligence.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

Here's what Ilya told Bloomberg, the company is special in that its first product will be the safe superintelligence and it will not do anything else wrong. Until then, Friedberg, is this super intelligence, making safe super intelligence a great business model? Or is this something else?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

Here's what Ilya told Bloomberg, the company is special in that its first product will be the safe superintelligence and it will not do anything else wrong. Until then, Friedberg, is this super intelligence, making safe super intelligence a great business model? Or is this something else?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

It's a little bit confusing to come into the market and compete with a throttle or a governor, I guess, on your startup. At least that's what some people are discussing. So what are your thoughts?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

It's a little bit confusing to come into the market and compete with a throttle or a governor, I guess, on your startup. At least that's what some people are discussing. So what are your thoughts?