Unnamed Witness

She was kind of, you know, saying psychological, horrible stuff. So I just started taping our conversations when they would get out of hand. There might have been a few times like I tape recorded the conversation to hear back, but there's only one that I really remember actually taping and it changed my life and it changed her life too, this conversation. She had no idea I was recording her.

She's like, well, you've messed things up for me. Blah, blah, blah. Starts getting panicked. She kept saying, Donna has something on me. That's why I'm paying her. I just kept pushing. What does Donna have on you?

She's like, well, you've messed things up for me. Blah, blah, blah. Starts getting panicked. She kept saying, Donna has something on me. That's why I'm paying her. I just kept pushing. What does Donna have on you?

What does she have? Okay.

What does she have? Okay.

I was scared for my life. It was super clear to me that she had asked Tracy to kill Steve.

I was scared for my life. It was super clear to me that she had asked Tracy to kill Steve.

There's a murder of a wealthy businessman. There's lies, deceit. There's everything.

There's a murder of a wealthy businessman. There's lies, deceit. There's everything.

Tracy is completely under the spell of Celeste.

Tracy is completely under the spell of Celeste.

She says, you know, man, he's going to die soon, but not soon enough. I'm just going to help him along the way I can.

She says, you know, man, he's going to die soon, but not soon enough. I'm just going to help him along the way I can.

Never. She had Tracy shoot Steve. It was real. She did it.

Never. She had Tracy shoot Steve. It was real. She did it.

The tape. The tape.

The tape. The tape.

If they say she's innocent, she's definitely gonna kill me.

If they say she's innocent, she's definitely gonna kill me.

On October 2nd, 1999, there is a call to 911 from Stephen Beard.