Urijah Faber

Yeah, I've heard that.

So you could get your available up to like 1,200, but somebody with much lower available testosterone is utilizing more of their available testosterone, if that makes sense.

I think I'm saying that right.

No, you are.

You testosterone specialist, you can correct me.

I have no freaking clue.

zero wow which yeah my buddy tyler couldn't believe it and i was like you know literally i mean but i but i i gotta say i didn't really need to i was i felt stronger than most people i felt in better shape than most people i was top top three in the world for 12 years you had a long you know at the at the top fighting for world championships and this and that

I didn't know.

Some journalists actually let me in on the secret that there was a bunch of people cheating.

No way.

Yeah, especially before USADA was in.

Apparently, people were doing all sorts of stuff.

And there's stuff after USADA like EPO and stuff that they can't track.

So I had no clue about any of that stuff.

And anyone who's doing it on my team, they wouldn't tell me.

I'm like the dad, you know?

You would snitch on them?

I just would probably try to talk some sense into them.

But in retrospect, you know, some of these guys that are cheating, it's like the get versus the give.

It was a calculated risk, I guess.