Vanan Murugesan

Exactly.

And so, yes, we, you know, is there work to grow our audience?

One more little note that I wanted to share with you.

Yes.

I think if we have time to talk about our future, we'll talk about where we want to grow next.

And this came from a column, another Semaphore column from earlier today.

But I, we do need a sizable audience, but we need to leverage that audience.

And by the way, they have these interesting newsletters.

by region that i just think are tremendous they have an africa newsletter that i think is is really good they have a gulf state every day and it's a daily newsletter i never was getting daily news from the continent of africa or from the gulf states and uh i certainly glad i am today so kudos to my friend justin smith there and ben smith who've done some great work um

How do I say?

the understanding of what Sahan means, the brand, right?

And how can we make money from that?

We've talked about, I mean, you've already seen events.

They've talked about creating events, right, John?

Festivals, things like that.

But what's interesting is this point that Semaphore makes in this other newsletter they do, an energy newsletter that they do.

You know, I've talked about, I think the future generation, people are yearning for a sense of community and what can Sahan do to create that sense of community, right?

The war is accelerating the global glean energy transition, they write, and China dominates it.

70% of all green hardware.

And when they have this thing from us, I'm sure they will continue to support Sahan.