Vanan Murugesan

Exactly.

Where did that go?

So have you networked with other immigrant-focused news organizations around the country?

And if so, tell me about that network.

How much of it is it?

How loose is it or how specific does it get?

Tell me a couple of partners that you think

people ought to be aware of that you look to as where you've learned something you've taken something obviously you guys share best practices so yeah i'd love i'd love a couple of shout outs yeah sure sure let me so i'm gonna use um god

Well, boy, I'm so glad you brought up WhatsApp in general because I don't think people realize how global and how it's such an important lifeline to so many immigrant communities in America because it's global.

So I think this is what, you know, it's funny.

If you look at the history of media, and one of the things I like to remind people is that, like, actually disruption is a feature, not a bug.

Mm-hmm.

It starts with when we figured out how to reproduce photographs, then people launched a bunch of magazines because we could now reprint photographs.

When we figured out how to transmit audio, we had radio stations everywhere.

When we figured out how to do moving pictures, then we got television, right?

And so what we're in now is this fragmenting stage and the specialization stage where we

There is no barrier to entry to create news and information anymore.

There's no, you know, look at the organization I used to work at NBC.

We used to have a feature called where in the world is, you know, fill in the anchor blanks, you know, that name, because we're going to go live from the Gobi desert.

We're going to go live from Antarctica.