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That clip comes courtesy of KTUU-TV. It was recorded at a hearing for the abduction and killing of Samantha Koenig. Israel attempts to escape the courtroom. He somehow breaks out of his leg irons and tries to jump over the partition behind him. Security has to stop him with a stun gun.

That clip comes courtesy of KTUU-TV. It was recorded at a hearing for the abduction and killing of Samantha Koenig. Israel attempts to escape the courtroom. He somehow breaks out of his leg irons and tries to jump over the partition behind him. Security has to stop him with a stun gun.

And as much as Israel tries to present himself as an opportunistic killer who chooses his victims at random in the moment, Josh believes there's maybe more to the story.

And as much as Israel tries to present himself as an opportunistic killer who chooses his victims at random in the moment, Josh believes there's maybe more to the story.

Josh says particularly with Samantha Koenig. We mentioned in our last episode, Samantha hadn't always worked at a coffee stand.

Josh says particularly with Samantha Koenig. We mentioned in our last episode, Samantha hadn't always worked at a coffee stand.

It's important because, according to Josh, Israel was a huge Minnesota Vikings fan.

It's important because, according to Josh, Israel was a huge Minnesota Vikings fan.

Maybe there's more to Israel's MO than he led on.

Maybe there's more to Israel's MO than he led on.

Maybe there's more to his victimology. I may not be a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, but Josh has spoken to a few in his research.

Maybe there's more to his victimology. I may not be a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, but Josh has spoken to a few in his research.

As for what exactly Israel wanted to protect his daughter from, we can only guess.

As for what exactly Israel wanted to protect his daughter from, we can only guess.

It's hard to know if Israel wanted to protect his daughter from the other half of his double life, or if he wanted to protect his legacy from the acts he found shameful and embarrassing. Were his demands selfless or selfish? Similar questions come up with the relationships in his life. Were any of them loving and genuine, or were they all just convenient?

It's hard to know if Israel wanted to protect his daughter from the other half of his double life, or if he wanted to protect his legacy from the acts he found shameful and embarrassing. Were his demands selfless or selfish? Similar questions come up with the relationships in his life. Were any of them loving and genuine, or were they all just convenient?

Josh talks a lot about duality on his podcast, True Crime Bullshit. He named his studio Both And.

Josh talks a lot about duality on his podcast, True Crime Bullshit. He named his studio Both And.

If you read the coverage surrounding Israel Keyes, his reputation can feel sensationalized, or at the very least, a step removed from nuanced. He's been called the sui generis serial killer of the 21st century, AKA in a class of his own. Headlines call him a monster, vile, unhinged, the most terrifying serial killer you've never heard of, and most of all, meticulous.

If you read the coverage surrounding Israel Keyes, his reputation can feel sensationalized, or at the very least, a step removed from nuanced. He's been called the sui generis serial killer of the 21st century, AKA in a class of his own. Headlines call him a monster, vile, unhinged, the most terrifying serial killer you've never heard of, and most of all, meticulous.