Vanessa Van Edwards

What happens if we don't use our hand gestures at all in a conversation, in a pitch, whatever?

The person speaking, it's harder to process.

You know what's interesting?

I was just reading some intros for the podcast right before you came in.

I had another interview this morning and I did podcast intros and ads.

And I used my hands in order to do it because I feel like it's coming across as like I'm really engaging.

Yes, yes.

And I remember when I was reading my first audio book, The School of Greatness,

I tried to read it like just kind of like with my hands down for a while.

And I was like, I can't read.

I've forgotten how to read my own words.

Being like dyslexic growing up anyways, I'm a little slower when I read in general.

But when I started to be like, okay, I just need to get in this with my body, my hands.

I felt more confident.

I felt like I could flow.

I wasn't messing up as much.

I wasn't having to stop and restart as much.

It was powerful.

They are using their whole bodies in a room by themselves, like recording on a mic.

Right.