Vanessa Williams

You know, everyone sees me as a beauty queen.

He said, that was your door.

That's, that's what happened in your life.

And that was your door that led you to all this other opportunity.

Oh, tons of, I mean, there's a myriad of, I mean, I was pro-choice, pro-ERA, Equal Rights Amendment.

I mean, I was, so, you know, the Miss America franchise was one that was started as a swimsuit contest in Atlantic City is a seaside town.

I mean, what is it like?

Not like Plymouth, but like a seaside town with a boardwalk.

And this was like their annual swimsuit competition.

We're talking way back in the day.

And it turned into a scholarship program for women for college and career and all that stuff.

Yeah.

You basically get the money and then you've got a year of...

Or whatever you're going around and saying, I miss America.

I miss America.

You know, and, you know, I, my first, I met, well, Ronald Reagan, President Reagan called me and said, it's a great thing for our country, the night I won.

And then I was at a White House dinner shortly after that.

He called you?

I met like seven presidents.

He called you?