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Varsha Venugopal

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80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

There may be some huge exponential gains we could make by reducing costs by, say, 40%.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

For instance, if we could find the right influencer without having to go through the whole nomination process, for instance.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So this third piece is higher impact, but lower likelihood.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So I think there is something unusual about the impact of our funding as a startup nonprofit compared to some of the more established GiveWell programs, because our model is still quite malleable and developing.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And some of the lessons we can learn from this funding can help us get more future funding, which could be used more effectively.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Yep.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So the gossip intervention is in the original J-PAL study, the surveyors were sent to a random set of 17 households and they asked several questions.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

But the main question is, if there was a fair in town, who is most likely to tell you about it?

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

We then run an algorithm to identify the top gossips or community influencers and the surveyors then go back.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

to these top influencers and recruit them as immunization ambassadors.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So that is the ambassador program in the J-PAL study.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

What we did as a result of COVID was pivot to a remote model, which already brings down the cost significantly in that we call up a random set of households to identify these influencers and then call these influencers to recruit them as ambassadors.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So compared to the SMS model, this model at the moment is still not as mature and we're still iterating to find the most cost effective way of doing this.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

That's the standard ratio we're using, yes.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

We have some standard language we use.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And in fact, we are iterating with some of this, which also seems to increase the success rates.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

But broadly, it is saying that you have been identified as a community influencer and we would like you to be an immunization ambassador.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

There is no monetary cost involved in this.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

It is a voluntary exercise.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

We would be sending you regular reminders on immunization camps.