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Varsha Venugopal

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80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Are you willing to be an ambassador?

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So we conducted a pilot study earlier this year for two purposes.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

One was to see if a remote version works and the other was to see if ambassadors act.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And the answer to both questions was broadly yes.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So in more than 90% of the cases, when people were contacted randomly, they were able to give us not only the name of an influencer, but also their phone number.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And then in more than 95% of the cases, the influencers agreed to be ambassadors.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

The challenge we had was reaching these influencers, possibly because they are influencers.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

They're not around most of the times.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

It's unfair.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

That's just a supposition.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

But that's the bit we are now iterating to try and call at different times of the day or different days of the week to get to them.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

The other bit was, are these ambassadors then sharing the information?

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So one thing we did early on was...

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

give them a phone number that they could then share with parents and ask the parents to give a missed call to enroll into the SMS Reminders program.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And I think we had more than 30 people sign up in the first week, which again gives us some confidence that the ambassadors are sharing this information and people are receiving it and somehow responding to it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

That's a great question.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So in the J-PAL study, they looked at both trusted people as well as community influencers and see the interaction effects.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And it turns out it is the community influencer bit which seems to be causing the biggest impact.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Other than the fact that we know about 18% of our influencers are women, which is kind of similar to the J-PAL study.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

We are very curious to better understand the motivations of the ambassadors and why they take it on.