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Varsha Venugopal

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80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think one big question that an RCT can't answer is about the mechanism.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

What is fundamentally changing at the community level as a result of these interventions?

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So SMS reminders, we think, are increasing salience.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Ambassadors, we hypothesize, are somehow changing trust and norms in the community.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

But this is something that's still an open question that we would need some additional clarity on.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think another element of this is any sense on where most of the effects come from would be really useful to know.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Could we have a few super ambassadors, for instance, so we don't have to go through the whole nomination process?

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So again, that's a question we hope to get answers to through our own M&E processes.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think other features of the study design, a big one is, does the impact change over time?

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Now,

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

If these ambassadors, as we suspect, are actually changing norms and trust, then we don't need to be hiring or finding ambassadors every year.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Maybe it's a one-off thing.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

But obviously, again, our cost-effectiveness calculations and our ideas on impact changes if we have to go back in and find ambassadors on a routine, say, annual basis.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

The other bit is the SMS.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

In the J-PAL study, they only enrolled children who had already shown up for at least one appointment, and they only sent out SMSs to either 33% or 66% of those people.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

In our case, we enroll all children who have been born in a public facility, and we send out messages to all of them.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

intuitively, we think we have higher impact on that one.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

But again, open to studying further.