Varsha Venugopal

I think our focus is very much on developing an operations manual over the next few months to then explore are there some quick exponential wins we can have in terms of scaling up through other ways in addition to of course replicating and scaling up ourselves.

So I think the first is the fundamental challenge with designing and implementing a program which has proven evidence at a much smaller scale.

So any general challenge of scaling up and ensuring the effect sizes remain the same has...

How do we make sure there isn't a reduction in the fidelity of the design?

Can we have the same degree of oversight of these surveyors is the big one.

I think the other big one for us is walking the line of innovating versus scaling, something I mentioned earlier.

There are certain funders who are quite keen on us growing in certain ways, which may or may not perfectly align with our strategic priorities.

And especially at this stage for us, should we be reaching one additional district or a few more additional districts versus making some of those investments, which may not see that direct impact on the ground in terms of additional lives saved, but may then build up to that exponential increase at a future date.

So making some of those decisions is, I guess, high leverage, but also high stress.

Yeah, I mean, I think there is, this is an observation and I'm not sure where I land myself, but I do see how within the EA funders, there is a much more focus on us delivering by ourselves, right?

So the kind of organizations we see, AMF or new incentives, they are rolling out the programs by themselves.

Outside EA, I think one observation I have is a lot of these venture philanthropy kind of funders are very keen for nonprofits to have an end game from day one.

And their idea on end game or sustainability is that highly likely the government needs to take it on.

So what is that pathway for the government to take it on needs to be kind of embedded in your pilot stage itself.

For us, we are somewhere in the middle.

We have done the pilot.

We are working closely with our government partners and supporting them.

We are also replicating ourselves.

And our next stage is to try and figure out, are we continuing to grow and become that possibly call center model?

Or are there ways we could be training state governments?