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Varsha Venugopal

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
886 total appearances

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80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

we were able to progress despite the COVID-related lockdowns.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think the bigger one was just motivation of our team members and for us to ensure we did, you know, weekly some version of hanging out in the pub with all our team members to ensure we all continued to be motivated and focused.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Yeah.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And in India, the COVID phase was quite bad.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So it was not just about working from home.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Pretty much everyone was also personally affected with their family members.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So it was quite hard for extended periods of time to be stuck in your room or your home to continue being motivated and then get these negative messages about your friends and families and networks.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So I think as a team, we had this Jaya Pakoda Zoom event every Friday or every second Friday.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And that was quite useful for a lot of us to not talk work and to be able to talk to each other.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think more generally for me personally, just I guess meditation, exercise, all the common ones definitely helped with sanity.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think, thankfully, not any major ones yet, but the one we do recognize as a distraction is the mission drift, which was quite real with these potential COVID vaccine.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

We had a lot of interest from funders to see how we could respond to that, for instance.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And again, having colleagues within CE and otherwise nudging us to continue remaining focused has been hugely helpful.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think that's the biggest one for us so far in terms of potential mistakes or almost mistakes that have been distracting us from our core focus.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Yeah, so we know, for instance, measles is six times as infectious as COVID.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And there have been real challenges with potential outbreaks of measles.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So I think once we had more data coming in on how COVID was then having an impact on routine immunization and also a lack of clarity on how our programs could be most impactful on COVID made it easier for us to refocus on routine immunization.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Having said that, it's still an ongoing question for us on whether there are some low-hanging fruits areas we could impact in terms of COVID response.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think one experiment I have done over the last few years, which has served me well, is around putting myself in uncomfortable situations.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

It's almost like building a muscle.