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Vasant Dhar

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Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

So, you know, I think we're close.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

And, you know, we're there where AI can actually play a pretty significant role in sort of long-term systematic investing.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

So, you know, the traditional view of machine learning is supervised learning.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

You have examples that you learn from.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

There just weren't sufficient examples or training data to learn from, right?

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

You know, Damodaran is sort of exceptional in terms of the number of reports he's written,

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

you know, which go into sort of the low thousands maybe at this point.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

But that isn't sufficient data to really train an AI, like, you know, compared to how much data there was in the high frequency in the short-term space.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

So there just wasn't enough training data.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

What's different now, you know, and this is something I write in my book, is this emergence of general intelligence, where the machine knows something about everything, and the division between

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

common sense reasoning and expertise is broken down, right?

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

To me, that's like the big deal about AI that's made it a general purpose technology.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

That was always the hindrance, you know, that we sort of drew this artificial boundary between expertise and common sense.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

And with LLMs, that became available.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

So now you can build on this sort of substrate of, you know, a machine that has common sense

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

And you don't need as much training data because it's ingested sort of the wisdom of humanity on the Internet.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

And now it's a question of like, you know, tilting it in an appropriate direction, such as a value or a fundamentals approach like the modern does.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

Right.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

And that's what's made it feasible for, you know, reasoning about sort of long, longer term investment horizons.

Prof G Markets
Snap’s “Crucible Moment” Flops On Wall Street

So I've discussed the SpaceX valuation with him.