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Vera Bergengruen

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147 total appearances

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The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

But again, it was more of a often kind of a formal symbolic Navy.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Then you've got the IRGC, the paramilitary force operating these small, nimble speedboats that really kind of caused the most harassment and violence.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

potential damage.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And according to analysts we've spoken to, they still retain about 60% of those.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

So, you know, it's difficult to describe this as capabilities because it's so asymmetric.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

We're discussing like major, major U.S.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

assets, like big ships, big military assets.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And then we're discussing cheap drones, small speedboats, and small capabilities that are destructive enough to deter everyone trying to go through.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Everything we've been talking about sets up a standoff between who can really tolerate more economic pain, whether it's Tehran, which at this point has suffered, you know, weeks of war and probably feels, in terms of the regime, it doesn't have much to lose.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Their number one goal is just to survive.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And then you've got the global economy, which even though President Trump keeps insisting that U.S.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

is less dependent than Europe, for example, on the strait, which is true, it is still part of an interconnected global economy.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And that's something that Trump hasn't been willing to really acknowledge during much of this conflict.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

He keeps basically saying that the United States is doing this for the rest of the world, but they could just, you know, give up, go home and leave the problem to everybody else.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Practically everybody we've spoken to says it's only going to make it worse.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

There's no good case scenario here.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Even with what has happened so far, if every single best case scenario were to happen from here on out, it's going to take a while for the global economy to recover.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

A lot depends on how this blockade works out, whether both sides actually come back to the negotiating table, whether the fighting resumes.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

But anything that adds more time to this conflict is just going to extend how long it's going to take to recover.

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