Vernon Wells

Everything that was coming out of your mouth, that's exactly what you were trying to do.

And then you get to

our decade and relive some of those memories that we had a chance to spend with Shannon and talk about just the lineups that we had and the amount of runs that we would score and

the damage that Carlos would do.

And it was, those were in 2003, it was one of the best lineups that I've ever been a part of from top to bottom.

And Shannon was, Shannon was the catalyst in that one and from the lead off spot.

So, and then Rios brought him up earlier.

He's, he is a unique one.

Like he's, he's one of those strong freakish guys that, that,

didn't necessarily, I would put it plainly, he didn't really care much about analytics, didn't care about the information that came.

We actually had a conversation, I could remember, because Carlos, well, Carlos and I, we always, our dialogue was always, all right, who are we facing?

What does he throw?

What does he like to go to?

Things like that.

A reliever would come in in the middle of a game and we're talking about, okay, what are you thinking?

It's complete opposite with Alex.

We literally had a conversation.

He was sitting in front of me and they brought in a righty and he comes to me and I'm like, hey, so what are you thinking?

He's like, who is this guy?

I'm like, what?