Vicki Ward

Thank you so much for having me.

Well, I wasn't surprised.

I mean, Ghislaine Maxwell at this point has absolutely nothing to lose.

And she's probably heard that last week President Trump

said it was a shame, in his opinion, that the Clintons were being hauled in front of Congress.

Now, possibly that's because, you know, a precedent is being set here and, you know, Congress may well haul President Trump in front of it, you know, once he's left office.

If they can do this to the Clintons, they can do this to him.

I think that the evidence shows that whatever Glenn Maxwell says, unfortunately...

is meaningless and I say that because I read the transcripts of her interview with Todd Blanche in the summer very carefully and they were packed with untruths.

I sat through her criminal trial in which she was convicted and let's not forget one of the counts was for perjury.

I think that the survivors have said that they feel

that were she to be given any credibility at this point, that would be a real slap in the face to them.

The tragedy of all this is that if Ghislaine Maxwell were to be able to step outside of herself, as it were, if she were to be able to tell the truth, she knows everything.

And that's the tragedy here.

So Ghislaine Maxwell is actually the key to the entire Epstein scheme.

There's no evidence that he abused underage girls or trafficked them before he met Ghislaine Maxwell.

So her importance is critical on two different levels.

Regarding the vulnerable teenagers and young women who were recruited by her, she played a critical role because they looked up to her.

And they saw her as this very sophisticated woman, well-educated.

She'd been to Oxford University.