Vicki Ward

I mean, it's a travesty that the federal investigation was stopped in its tracks and then buried and then left.

I mean, it's an absolute travesty.

Yeah.

I deliberately kept the farmer's allegations away from him until the 11th hour, which is, you know, a strategy that most reporters do because, you know, when they're profiling somebody, they need to continue to talk and talk and talk.

They know that if they've got sort of something that's dynamite, once they put that allegation to the person,

That's the end of the conversation.

So you better have everything else buttoned up before you put that allegation.

So it was the last one that I put to him and I put to Ghislaine Maxwell because Annie Farmer in particular had allegations about Maxwell and about the topless massage Ghislaine Maxwell had given her that made Annie Farmer terrified and uncomfortable.

And they went absolutely berserk.

Maxwell and Epstein.

Both of them.

And Epstein then sent me, faxed me over all this documentation that he claimed disproved what the farmers said.

It didn't disprove what the farmers said.

It said, oh, here's a postcard from Annie Farmer thanking me for sending her to Thailand.

Okay, that doesn't prove anything.

And I was at this point

Yeah, my doctor was getting very concerned.

I mean, this piece had become a sort of endless nightmare, actually.

And he was concerned for me, so I was sort of put on bed rest at home.

And in that period... But I was pretty certain that the piece was just going through the last stages of fact-checking.