Vicky Spratt

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Including some young people.

But listen, I go into loads of schools, you know, and...

The real worry I've got at the moment from a Labour perspective is we're giving the vote to these younger people.

And right now, I mean, I was in a school the other day, and I would say there were quite a few hundred girls and boys there.

They all said they're going to vote, and I would reckon it's going to be 60 Green, 20 Reform, and 20 Labour.

So for Labour to have done that, and then for that to be the current mood, I'm not saying that's universal, it was in a pretty affluent area.

But even so, I think that is alarming from your perspective.

Politics hasn't adapted to the same.

It's a total fucking disaster and we should never have done it.

Now that we've done it, we should undo it.

I think that was 15 seconds.

But if we were to talk in detail to the thousands of people who've responded, how much of what you've done and what the government is doing are they even aware of?

and I don't know whether that's just a communications issue, I think most people are aware that you've got this very, very ambitious house-building goal.

I think most people have the view that it's not going to be met, and therefore, in theory, the planning reform's great, but is it going to happen?