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Victor Shih

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

I think for a while, China was quite decentralized.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

So this is kind of from the mid-1970s all the way until the mid-1990s.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

China was very decentralized where local governments generated a lot of revenue, but they also spent a lot of money.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And it incentivized them to do kind of

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

basically good things such as trying to attract as much FDI as possible, trying to attract as much local investment as possible, give tax breaks and so on and so forth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

So I think, you know, China had a very good period of mainly sort of private sector driven growth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

because of this fiscal decentralization.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And that's the understanding of, I think, most economists.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

But then there was a tax centralization in 1994, basically, where the central government basically said, okay, this is ridiculous.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

We don't want to end up like the Soviet Union and fall into different pieces.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

We need to control fiscal income.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

So then they grab the most lucrative source of taxation at that time.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And it continues to be the case, which is the value-added tax.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And so the collection of value-added taxes – and then also in subsequent decades, pretty much all other tax categories are now collected by the central government.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

Then they reimburse part of the money to the provinces.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And then supposedly they say, okay, now you can spend the money as you wish.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

But in reality, that's not the case.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

So in reality, it's kind of like, well, if you do this thing, then I'll give you a little bit of money.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

But you have to do the thing that I want you to do to get this money, to get this grant basically.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

So then the fiscal autonomy, I would say, has been falling since 1994.

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