Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
I think for a while, China was quite decentralized.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
So this is kind of from the mid-1970s all the way until the mid-1990s.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
China was very decentralized where local governments generated a lot of revenue, but they also spent a lot of money.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
And it incentivized them to do kind of
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
basically good things such as trying to attract as much FDI as possible, trying to attract as much local investment as possible, give tax breaks and so on and so forth.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
So I think, you know, China had a very good period of mainly sort of private sector driven growth.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
because of this fiscal decentralization.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
And that's the understanding of, I think, most economists.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
But then there was a tax centralization in 1994, basically, where the central government basically said, okay, this is ridiculous.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
We don't want to end up like the Soviet Union and fall into different pieces.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
We need to control fiscal income.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
So then they grab the most lucrative source of taxation at that time.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
And it continues to be the case, which is the value-added tax.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
And so the collection of value-added taxes – and then also in subsequent decades, pretty much all other tax categories are now collected by the central government.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
Then they reimburse part of the money to the provinces.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
And then supposedly they say, okay, now you can spend the money as you wish.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
But in reality, that's not the case.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
So in reality, it's kind of like, well, if you do this thing, then I'll give you a little bit of money.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
But you have to do the thing that I want you to do to get this money, to get this grant basically.
Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih
So then the fiscal autonomy, I would say, has been falling since 1994.