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Victor Shih

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

I mean there's one aspect where it's like, yeah, it would be great to automate all industrial production.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

China is doing a good job doing that already.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

I don't think they need additional infrastructure, sort of governing infrastructure to allow them to do that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

But on sort of applying AGI or AI to governance –

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

to even service sector generating video content for people doing even like travel agency stuff, the party is very, very paranoid that some hostile actor outside of China, certainly they believe that very strongly, or inside of China is going to do something

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

And the AGI is going to take off and it's going to undermine the party's authority.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

So I think basically what we're going to see in terms of institutional development is not at the top end but on the lower end.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

So they will want to designate human beings in all the government agencies, in all the commercial entities that are using AI or AGI to put their foot on the brake if it comes to it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

No, no, no.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

I mean, they want to develop it, of course.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

They'll pour a lot of money.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

They'll try to give DeepSeek as much help as possible, you know, sourcing GPUs, you know, whatever, all this kind of stuff.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

But I am all but certain that there is one or maybe a team of people in the headquarters of DeepSeek who can pull the plug.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

Interesting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

If necessary.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

Because there is such a team of people in every major internet company in China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

What would cause them to pull the plug?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

If subversive, yeah, so if AGI started generating, you know, Falun Gong related content and it proliferates very quickly beyond the capacity of the sensor to control it, then they'll have to stop

Dwarkesh Podcast
Xi Jinping’s paranoid approach to AGI, debt crisis, & Politburo politics — Victor Shih

You know, the algorithm from generating new images and new videos and so on and so forth.