Victor Shih

There's some sense of that.

On technology issues, I think he cares a lot about it, but only from the perspective that –

Competition with the United States is a very important objective.

The Chinese Communist Party is for him personally a very important objective.

So he wants to win.

But precisely the extent to which he understands all the intricacies, it's unclear to me.

I don't think he necessarily – I don't think he does.

But then compare it.

Comparing him to American leaders, especially today, I think he's probably better prepared.

Just because in China, the experts, they talk to the top leadership all the time.

Yeah, these are all very good questions.

So I think in addition to the Science and Technology Commission that you mentioned, another very important position that he holds is that he's the head of the Office of the Central Commission on Cybersecurity.

The head of the Central Commission on Cybersecurity is Xi Jinping himself.

But the head of the administrative office, which runs the day-to-day operation of that commission, which is basically a leading group, is Ding Xuesheng.

And he took that position back in 2022.

So he's been steeped in cybersecurity for a couple of years.

I think by now he knows all the major players.

and some of the key policy issues.

His relationship with Xi Jinping is a very interesting one.

So he only directly worked under Xi Jinping for one year.