Victor Vescovo

And then I sold it to a marine research organization.

I sold it to Inkfish, which is founded by Gabe Newell, the American billionaire who founded the Steam Game Network.

And he's done amazing things with the Submersible.

He bought the whole system, including employed my whole team because they knew what they were doing.

And they're out in the Pacific continuing to do

amazing scientific work in the deep ocean trenches.

They went and explored the volcano that exploded off Tonga.

They wanted to see what changed environmentally and underneath the ocean in terms of the plate tectonics and things.

So it's all one small, but highly effective community.

We all try and work together for the health of the oceans.

Yes, we have a very strong difference of opinion.

He is the CEO of a company that is dedicated to retrieving polymetallic nodules from the seafloor.

That's his job.

He gets paid a great deal of money to do that.

And he has investors that he has spent over $700 million of their money to pursue that.

So I think it's important that he has to have that perspective, that it is going to be transformational, that it is amazingly effective, et cetera.

I strongly disagree as someone who has directly operated heavy equipment below 4,000 and 5,000 meters.

But there are so many issues that I have with deep sea mining.

Most criticism of deep sea mining has come from the environmental aspect.

And I think that, yes, it will destroy everything on the seafloor.