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Viet Thanh Nguyen

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Appearances Over Time

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How our memory of war can shape the future

And that's why it's really, really hard for the United States or Vietnam to recognize their own ethnocentric and nationalist preoccupations and their blind spots to other nations and other cultures.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

She conceived of two joined walls of dark reflective stone set into the ground.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

and engraved with the names of the more than 58,000 Americans who died in that war.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

And so when you visit the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, what you see there is a beautiful commemoration of 58,000 plus American dead.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

And a total erasure or refusal to remember that millions of Southeast Asians of all sides, including hundreds of thousands of America's allies, also died during the war.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

So by not remembering those people, it allows Americans to think of their own soldiers and through their soldiers themselves, Americans themselves, as victims of this terrible war.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

And with all those names carved so permanently into stone, there is no way any of us can ever forget the sacrifice of those who served.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

Now, if you go to Vietnam, it's exactly the same thing.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

If you go to the major historical museums, war memorials in Vietnam, what you'll discover is a very consistent narrative, which is that the Vietnamese were the victims of foreign aggression, whether that was the French or whether it's the Americans.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

And that this narrative of victimization is what allows and justifies the communist revolution and the current communist government by implication.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

So when Americans go visit these museums, oftentimes they're totally shocked because Americans have existed in their own ecosystem of propaganda that they never realized was propaganda, which is that when Americans think about the war in Vietnam, they think of themselves as the victims.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

Then they go to Vietnam and see these memorials and museums where they're being depicted as the people who committed atrocities.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

And for a lot of Americans, it's a complete short-circuiting.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

They just don't know how to deal with this.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

Half of the Americans who write things down say, this is just communist propaganda.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

What about all the atrocities that the communists committed?

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How our memory of war can shape the future

And it's true, the communists did commit atrocities.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

But so did the Americans.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

Both of these things can exist at the same time.

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How our memory of war can shape the future

But in an either-or universe, they don't.