Vince Chan

As we are about to conclude our conversation, what's one change you are proudest to have been part of? Through all the rows of fights and setbacks, what's the one that still makes it all feel worth it?

As we are about to conclude our conversation, what's one change you are proudest to have been part of? Through all the rows of fights and setbacks, what's the one that still makes it all feel worth it?

Exactly. Real leadership isn't just about holding the microphone. It's about building the stage, amplifying the right voices, and shaping the systems so more people can step into power. Whether it's one vote, one voice, or one podcast, those early actions compound into waves of real change.

Exactly. Real leadership isn't just about holding the microphone. It's about building the stage, amplifying the right voices, and shaping the systems so more people can step into power. Whether it's one vote, one voice, or one podcast, those early actions compound into waves of real change.

Brian, thank you so much for your generosity in opening up and sharing your honest reflections and real world actions with me today.

Brian, thank you so much for your generosity in opening up and sharing your honest reflections and real world actions with me today.

You are truly a chief change officer.

You are truly a chief change officer.

And that's where I'll leave you. Brian's story is a reminder that strategy beats outrage. Silence isn't the end. And data can change more than just polls. It can change power. Thank you so much for joining us today. If you like what you heard, Don't forget, subscribe to our show, leave us top-rated reviews, check out our website, and follow me on social media.

And that's where I'll leave you. Brian's story is a reminder that strategy beats outrage. Silence isn't the end. And data can change more than just polls. It can change power. Thank you so much for joining us today. If you like what you heard, Don't forget, subscribe to our show, leave us top-rated reviews, check out our website, and follow me on social media.

I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Until next time, take care.

I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Until next time, take care.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist community for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist community for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world.

Today's guest is Brian Sims, former Pennsylvania State Representative, civil rights attorney, and LGBTQ plus advocate who sees both the inside of power and the ways it shuts people out. Brian and I met in Hong Kong about two, three years ago at one of the city's largest LGBTQ plus events, a powerful moment for visibility, inclusion, and connection.

Today's guest is Brian Sims, former Pennsylvania State Representative, civil rights attorney, and LGBTQ plus advocate who sees both the inside of power and the ways it shuts people out. Brian and I met in Hong Kong about two, three years ago at one of the city's largest LGBTQ plus events, a powerful moment for visibility, inclusion, and connection.

In this two-part series, Brian shares what it was really like to make history to get silenced, meet speech, but to keep showing up anyway. He has traded the mic for a new kind of advocacy, one that is built on strategy, data, and a little less ego. Let's dive right in. Good morning to you, Brian. I haven't seen you in person for like, how long? Two, three years?

In this two-part series, Brian shares what it was really like to make history to get silenced, meet speech, but to keep showing up anyway. He has traded the mic for a new kind of advocacy, one that is built on strategy, data, and a little less ego. Let's dive right in. Good morning to you, Brian. I haven't seen you in person for like, how long? Two, three years?

Well, a lot of things have happened in two years' time. Brian, how are you? How have you been?

Well, a lot of things have happened in two years' time. Brian, how are you? How have you been?