Vince Chan

Today's episode zooms in on Waverly's personal journey, the love and logic that have guided her career path and experiences. In our next episode, which is about her being a teacher and expert guide, we'll dive into a major chapter of her career, 22 years at Chicago Bull.

Today's episode zooms in on Waverly's personal journey, the love and logic that have guided her career path and experiences. In our next episode, which is about her being a teacher and expert guide, we'll dive into a major chapter of her career, 22 years at Chicago Bull.

There, she taught and coached a sharply focused group of highly logical talents, all deeply engaged in the passion for innovation, change, and entrepreneurship. From that structured academic environment, she has transitioned to her current role as a coach for a more diverse group of entrepreneurs. In the third part of our series, we'll come full circle and focus back on Waverly herself.

There, she taught and coached a sharply focused group of highly logical talents, all deeply engaged in the passion for innovation, change, and entrepreneurship. From that structured academic environment, she has transitioned to her current role as a coach for a more diverse group of entrepreneurs. In the third part of our series, we'll come full circle and focus back on Waverly herself.

She's now more than a coach. She's an entrepreneur herself, actively building her own new venture. is a fascinating mix of her ever-changing experiences. Good morning, Wayfully. Welcome to my show. Good morning, Vince. I am thrilled to be here. Usually, I kick off our interview with a little introduction about my guest. Today, I'd like to switch things up a bit.

She's now more than a coach. She's an entrepreneur herself, actively building her own new venture. is a fascinating mix of her ever-changing experiences. Good morning, Wayfully. Welcome to my show. Good morning, Vince. I am thrilled to be here. Usually, I kick off our interview with a little introduction about my guest. Today, I'd like to switch things up a bit.

I was browsing through the website of your new venture, Wiseheart, and a specific sentence really stood out to me. It said, as a young person, I had an enormous love for the theater and a passion for logic. Love and logic, what a fascinating combination. So Waverly, can you unpack that for us? Tell us, who are you really at the intersection of these two worlds?

I was browsing through the website of your new venture, Wiseheart, and a specific sentence really stood out to me. It said, as a young person, I had an enormous love for the theater and a passion for logic. Love and logic, what a fascinating combination. So Waverly, can you unpack that for us? Tell us, who are you really at the intersection of these two worlds?

As you indicated, that was late 70s and early 80s. There must be very, very few females in your computer science class. How did you navigate this deeply man-dominated world?

As you indicated, that was late 70s and early 80s. There must be very, very few females in your computer science class. How did you navigate this deeply man-dominated world?

One of, sorry, you're saying one of three or four women in the advanced computer science class. Like how many students were in that class?

One of, sorry, you're saying one of three or four women in the advanced computer science class. Like how many students were in that class?

Even when I grew up, I'm younger than you by about 10 years. Tomboy was still a commonly used term in my generation. Don't forget, we're now in June 2024. The month of June is the month of Pride. So we are proud of our identities.

Even when I grew up, I'm younger than you by about 10 years. Tomboy was still a commonly used term in my generation. Don't forget, we're now in June 2024. The month of June is the month of Pride. So we are proud of our identities.

Teaching has always been your calling. But I was wondering, during this journey from PhD to teaching, there's something called Forrester. I believe you joined this firm and helped it grow from a boutique into a major institution over a couple of years. You joined as employee 20-something, 27, I believe that's what you told me. So with your calling for teaching, with your PhD degree,

Teaching has always been your calling. But I was wondering, during this journey from PhD to teaching, there's something called Forrester. I believe you joined this firm and helped it grow from a boutique into a major institution over a couple of years. You joined as employee 20-something, 27, I believe that's what you told me. So with your calling for teaching, with your PhD degree,

You could have stayed in the university, building your academic career from assistant professor to associate to a tenure professor, a very well predicted career path. But then what happened in between? We'll talk about Chicago, your teaching career, 22 years teaching careers in Chicago. But before that, let's talk about what happened in the 90s.

You could have stayed in the university, building your academic career from assistant professor to associate to a tenure professor, a very well predicted career path. But then what happened in between? We'll talk about Chicago, your teaching career, 22 years teaching careers in Chicago. But before that, let's talk about what happened in the 90s.

While listening to you, I felt like we were having coffee together. Your story had me nodding, laughing, and utterly fascinated. You present this blend of strong analytical thinking with a very human, social side. Considering your career shifts and external pressures you faced, you mentioned some kind of luck or perhaps karma.

While listening to you, I felt like we were having coffee together. Your story had me nodding, laughing, and utterly fascinated. You present this blend of strong analytical thinking with a very human, social side. Considering your career shifts and external pressures you faced, you mentioned some kind of luck or perhaps karma.