Vince Chan

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want to say thank you so much for sharing and i will of course like to invite you back to hear more of those magic magical stories you're trying to create but we'll save it for next time we'll build the momentum so that we'll have the part two well thank you so much i loved it very much talking
Well, I would say as a conclusion, you study law, you study all kinds of law books, you memorize all the rules and stuff, but now you are making your own playbook, your own law book for change, for magic. This program, this show is about making changes, making your own laws of change. You are truly a role model of creating your own law book, your own playbook.
I'm really glad that I invited you in the very first place and really appreciate your time. I would encourage you since you're reaching out to different people, what you share here, I'll release it as an episode. You should also share this link to your counterparts. I will. I think they would care to know about your motivation. You as a founder story.
I mean, why for two years doing this and then they listen to this. Oh, I know why you make this big commitment moving from France from a stable job to a position of stability to a position of challenge or creating magic. I think they will be touched. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Thank you so much for joining us today. If you like what you heard, Don't forget, subscribe to our show, leave us top-rated reviews, check out our website, and follow me on social media. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Until next time, take care.
Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist community for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world.
Today, I'm sitting down with Wayne Turmal to dive into a crucial topic, long-distance leadership, in an era where communication technology is rapidly evolving for both workers and leaders. Yes, you heard that right. Long-distance leadership, not long-distance relationships.
For just like with any relationship, maintaining, nurturing, and fixing long-distance leadership is far from straightforward. This conversation couldn't be more timely. When we recorded this episode, Amazon's CEO had just announced that their RTO return to office policy for 2025. And so far, the media narrative surrounding it hasn't been exactly positive.
So how can Wang and his team provide solutions as remote and hybrid work models continue to change shape? Let's find out.
This is really exciting, Vince. Wayne, let's start with a bit of your background. How does your past experiences make you the perfect fit to write several books about long-distance leadership and communication for leaders?
What exactly does long-distance leadership mean? How would you define it?
How have these changes helped or disrupted the way we lead and manage teams? In other words, how have you seen long-distance leadership evolve? What changes have you noticed in terms of how it works, how fast it's changing, and the direction it's heading?
You've released a second edition of this book. Why now? What's changed since the first edition came out in 2018?
This interview feels super timely, especially with Amazon CEO announcing that starting in 2025, Corporate staff will return to a five-day work week. There's been a lot of fuss around this. So far, the reaction has been mostly negative. Some people say it's the end of remote work. Others say they will quit over it. What's your personal take on this?
Or let's imagine if Amazon invited you to help with this transition, how would you apply your leadership models to this situation? Maybe you can give us a quick overview of your models and how they could fit into Amazon's latest development?
Here's my personal experience. Except for the first few years of my corporate life, most of my career has involved a good degree of remote or hybrid work. I've worked with colleagues and supervisors scattered across different locations. So I got used to working with people across time zones, staying up late or waking up early to make it work.
I've also experienced the evolution of technology from working without a BlackBerry, then with a BlackBerry, and later moving on to other devices. now as an entrepreneur to work with people from all over. I've noticed that in the US, remote work has become a very contentious issue. Whereas here in Asia or in Hong Kong is a different story. Hong Kong is a dense, highly populated city.
And the concept of remote work doesn't carry the same weight. Many people just head back to the office as the living spaces here are typically smaller than in the U.S. For those with families or children, the office actually becomes the preferred place to get work done.
Until next time, take care.
Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist community for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world. Coming to us from the halls of UC Berkeley is associate professor and psychologist, Juliana Schroeder.
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