Vince

But at some point, you end up doing the national radio stuff.

So how does that happen?

Oh, come on, Jim.

You can tell people.

Can I say the name?

It's like a bag of pop tarts or something.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Yeah.

Those kinds of working conditions though.

Do you feel like you derive something from it though?

Because you know, I, I, you know, I have not, I work with Dan and kind of a,

how would I say this, like a distant way.

Like Dan and I work together in so far as we've got this silver lock operation together and I'm doing my own show separate from him.

But for the most part, we just have a cordial relationship.

We don't have like a quote unquote working relationship.

So I don't really know what it's like to work with him directly.

But my impression is that he's kind of a joy to work with.

And so you go from working in an environment where you're just being battered and miserable

but it forms you into who you are today.

And then you're like working in these environments with Dan and then with me, hopefully is a good environment where it's just a different experience, but you bring all of these skills that you've developed in a much more trying environment.