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Vince

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

Supremes, the justices talk about this.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

And I want to start with the Chief Justice, John Roberts.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

Listen to him yesterday.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

He seemed very confused about why illegals should be excluded from American citizenship.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

Listen.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

So let me just take you back to what John Roberts started with there.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

He goes, well, wait a second.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

They didn't give citizenship to some narrow categories, he claimed, like the children of foreign diplomats.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

If a foreign ambassador comes to the United States and has a baby here, they weren't entitled to that child becoming an American citizen.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

But those are very narrow exceptions, he said.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

So what about a large group like illegal aliens?

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

How could something that applies to a small group of people apply to a large group of people?

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

What?

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

What kind of argument is that?

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

So if enough people break our laws, they get to do it?

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

Is that really the argument that you're mounting, John Roberts?

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

And John Sauer,

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

who is the Solicitor General of the United States, he's the guy with the scratchy voice you heard just arguing the case.

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

He points out something super relevant, which is that back in the mid 1800s, when this whole debate was going on between the 14th Amendment and the 1866 Civil Rights Act,

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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259

He said, this was fundamentally about people who were subject to foreign powers, who were the subjects of foreign powers.