Vincent Oshana

By the way, Pat, you and I were in a Vistage group with Doug DeGroat.

Mike Miller and Tom Sodeca.

I said, that's the board.

And the board has a fiduciary responsibility to the charity license to make the choice.

And they made the choice.

And we weren't in there for that choice.

But what I've seen unfold is the result on Erica of all the stress and everything that goes with it.

How can this be easy?

This can't be easy.

And it concerns me seeing the outcome unfold.

of Turning Point USA seemingly lose momentum.

And I think that is really sad, is what Charlie did and how he helped with elections and was moving the hearts of kids on Christian foundation to good conservative thinking.

And to see Turning Point losing that, that bothers me.

And lastly,

To the verse, I'm going to moderate here real quick on the verse.

You quoted the verse in Exodus.

That is under the Mosaic law, and they were talking about the community's duty to take care of widows.

Why?

Women didn't work and then didn't have economic capability to feed their children.

And so they encouraged the community, take care of the widow and the fatherless in your community so we don't come into disrepute of saying that we don't care for God's kids.