Vincent Oshana

Well, guess what?

That's the criticism.

Well, don't you think whoever was the CEO, if not for her, whoever it would have been, knowing today's society and climate and commentators, if they would have picked Bill McGee or whatever.

They'd be like, he killed Charlie.

I disagree.

Why?

I disagree.

They would have done that to anybody, in my opinion.

And by the way, at a what scale?

Same scale or less?

If someone came out of the blue... No, no.

Or even one of the board members... You know who you choose as a CEO at this position?

Do you know what type of a CEO you choose when something like this happens?

Old and stable.

You choose the most...

boring person that's trusted and that person does it because it's an interim CEO.

Then you come back six, 12 months later after everything is gone and running a poll, getting the audience involved and let the audience say, we want Erica to be the CEO.

Then she says, I'm willing to take the job.

The sequencing was out of whack.

So, again, I'm not – I've always – you know, Charlie always had an offer where he could always call me, and he would call, and we would have, you know, many different types of conversations, and I enjoyed every one of them.