Vincent Oshana

This is a woman who had no time to mourn in the middle of not just the loss of her husband, but a national tragedy with all the weight and all the heaviness and all the media coverage and everything that went with that.

And we weren't in the boardroom when the board, they have, this is a nonprofit that has a board.

You can go look it up.

And there's like four highly experienced men that are on the board of this.

The board made the decision.

Charities have boards, and whatever was in Charlie's wishes or a transition plan, here they are.

There it is.

David Englehart, Doug DeGroat.

By the way, Pat, you and I were in a Vistage group with Doug DeGroat.

Mike Miller and Tom Sodeca.

I said, that's the board.

And the board has a fiduciary responsibility to the charity license to make the choice.

And they made the choice.

And we weren't in there for that choice.

But what I've seen unfold is the result on Erica of all the stress and everything that goes with it.

How can this be easy?

This can't be easy.

And it concerns me seeing the outcome unfold.

of Turning Point USA seemingly lose momentum.

And I think that is really sad, is what Charlie did and how he helped with elections and was moving the hearts of kids on Christian foundation to good conservative thinking.