Vincent Oshana

him strangling her and doing whatever to her.

And what drives me crazy is that the parents who are in the courtroom, besides everybody else, these are all prosecutors, all the jury, the mother and father have to hear the final moments, because they have to hear it, they're in court, of their seven-year-old daughter getting raped.

potentially the R word, and murdered, and that audio is going to stick with them forever.

Pat, think, I know it's stories, put yourself there.

The hardest call I've ever had to make was calling my mother,

My cousin called me and said, hey, my father passed away.

A lot of details.

Can you call and tell your mom?

I've never been so scared to make that phone call.

And Pat, to hear my mom, I felt it.

The moment was coming.

And I'd say, mom, are you OK?

Are you sitting down?

And when I told her, I heard a part of her soul die.

die I hurt I heard like I felt her soul a part of it die so I can imagine what the parents are hearing Pat and you guys know we always talk about this Tom what in the Bible Matthew chapter 18 verse 6 says if anyone causes any of these little ones who believe in me to stumble it's better for them to have a millstone hung around their neck and drowned into the deepest parts of the ocean

There's a difference between law and what God's supposed to do.

What he's supposed to do, Pat, he doesn't deserve to live.

I have to pray for him.

Adam, this is the hardest part we always talk about.

I, Vincent Oshana, have to pray for him.