Vivek Ramaswamy

So civic health, physical health, academic health, mental health, all of it, This is about standing for the next generation, and I do think about that as a future security issue and a competitiveness issue versus China and other countries around the world. But they don't have federalism like we do, so it can't be done in Washington, D.C. It has to be states that lead the way.

That's right. And this is such a perfect example because we're talking about what's going on in Washington, D.C., where I helped get Doge off the ground. President Trump and Elon are doing a fantastic job. It's bureaucracy that is the enemy of the people. I believe that. Whether it's the federal government, whether it's the state government, whether it's the level of the managerial class.

That's right. And this is such a perfect example because we're talking about what's going on in Washington, D.C., where I helped get Doge off the ground. President Trump and Elon are doing a fantastic job. It's bureaucracy that is the enemy of the people. I believe that. Whether it's the federal government, whether it's the state government, whether it's the level of the managerial class.

That's right. And this is such a perfect example because we're talking about what's going on in Washington, D.C., where I helped get Doge off the ground. President Trump and Elon are doing a fantastic job. It's bureaucracy that is the enemy of the people. I believe that. Whether it's the federal government, whether it's the state government, whether it's the level of the managerial class.

We talk about these public teachers unions. It's a funny thing because the individual people who are in that often are very good people. I think about my sixth grade teacher, Ms. Kinney, at a public school that I went to in Cincinnati where I grew up. She changed my life for the better. She allowed me to see potential in myself that I never saw.

We talk about these public teachers unions. It's a funny thing because the individual people who are in that often are very good people. I think about my sixth grade teacher, Ms. Kinney, at a public school that I went to in Cincinnati where I grew up. She changed my life for the better. She allowed me to see potential in myself that I never saw.

We talk about these public teachers unions. It's a funny thing because the individual people who are in that often are very good people. I think about my sixth grade teacher, Ms. Kinney, at a public school that I went to in Cincinnati where I grew up. She changed my life for the better. She allowed me to see potential in myself that I never saw.

But right now, we're not attracting the very best like her because there's no meritocracy in compensation. You brought up South Korea. The same thing is true in Finland. They pay a court to merit-based pay, according to actual performance, they attract the very best, in many cases, to the education profession, as we should here as well. And it's shocking that none of our 50 states do it.

But right now, we're not attracting the very best like her because there's no meritocracy in compensation. You brought up South Korea. The same thing is true in Finland. They pay a court to merit-based pay, according to actual performance, they attract the very best, in many cases, to the education profession, as we should here as well. And it's shocking that none of our 50 states do it.

But right now, we're not attracting the very best like her because there's no meritocracy in compensation. You brought up South Korea. The same thing is true in Finland. They pay a court to merit-based pay, according to actual performance, they attract the very best, in many cases, to the education profession, as we should here as well. And it's shocking that none of our 50 states do it.

So I want Ohio to be the first state in the country that brings meritocracy to compensation and education with some of the other changes, and that'll set a national standard is the way I look at this. It's not actually, turns out, a parochial state issue when you see it that way. It's about setting a national standard for and doing it through state leadership.

So I want Ohio to be the first state in the country that brings meritocracy to compensation and education with some of the other changes, and that'll set a national standard is the way I look at this. It's not actually, turns out, a parochial state issue when you see it that way. It's about setting a national standard for and doing it through state leadership.

So I want Ohio to be the first state in the country that brings meritocracy to compensation and education with some of the other changes, and that'll set a national standard is the way I look at this. It's not actually, turns out, a parochial state issue when you see it that way. It's about setting a national standard for and doing it through state leadership.

And I do think that that's the way things work in America, is education's local, but it's a national threat unless we address it.

And I do think that that's the way things work in America, is education's local, but it's a national threat unless we address it.

And I do think that that's the way things work in America, is education's local, but it's a national threat unless we address it.

Look, I don't think efficiency is a partisan issue. It shouldn't be. It's not a Democrat or a Republican point. And so I think you could imagine red states that need to be run better. I don't think there are that many blue states that are run efficiently, but in principle there could be.

Look, I don't think efficiency is a partisan issue. It shouldn't be. It's not a Democrat or a Republican point. And so I think you could imagine red states that need to be run better. I don't think there are that many blue states that are run efficiently, but in principle there could be.

Look, I don't think efficiency is a partisan issue. It shouldn't be. It's not a Democrat or a Republican point. And so I think you could imagine red states that need to be run better. I don't think there are that many blue states that are run efficiently, but in principle there could be.

Look, I think efficiency is just something that every citizen of a state, every taxpayer in a state should want. Right now, Texas and Florida, Dan, are the top two states that people move into. And I think that's one good metric of the success of a state, how many are moving in versus out. Right now, I think Ohio is around number 38.