Vivek Ramaswamy

But we also want to be the state that has two and one year and even six month or nine month vocational programs that train people to be an electrician or a welder or a builder and give them also in their respective fields, even the training needed, know how to use that AI, how to use that next generation of technology to apply it to their respective fields.

That's what true modernization looks like. So I don't want to fall in this camp and say, oh, well, that technological revolution is for somebody else. No. How do we harness the fruits of that to actually improve our own lives, even in fields that weren't traditionally thought to necessarily be technologically forward fields? I want to change that attitude. And, you know, it's not either or.

That's what true modernization looks like. So I don't want to fall in this camp and say, oh, well, that technological revolution is for somebody else. No. How do we harness the fruits of that to actually improve our own lives, even in fields that weren't traditionally thought to necessarily be technologically forward fields? I want to change that attitude. And, you know, it's not either or.

That's what true modernization looks like. So I don't want to fall in this camp and say, oh, well, that technological revolution is for somebody else. No. How do we harness the fruits of that to actually improve our own lives, even in fields that weren't traditionally thought to necessarily be technologically forward fields? I want to change that attitude. And, you know, it's not either or.

It's not one is more elite than the other. We're all elite in the way I look at it. But I don't refer to the other professions as the trades profession. I call them the professions because that's what they are. They deserve the same degree of dignity and respect. But at the same time, it's not going to be by chasing our past. It is going to be by leading us to chase our future.

It's not one is more elite than the other. We're all elite in the way I look at it. But I don't refer to the other professions as the trades profession. I call them the professions because that's what they are. They deserve the same degree of dignity and respect. But at the same time, it's not going to be by chasing our past. It is going to be by leading us to chase our future.

It's not one is more elite than the other. We're all elite in the way I look at it. But I don't refer to the other professions as the trades profession. I call them the professions because that's what they are. They deserve the same degree of dignity and respect. But at the same time, it's not going to be by chasing our past. It is going to be by leading us to chase our future.

So I do think that requires a new generation of leadership. And at the state level, it's a big part of why I'm stepping into what I see as a leadership vacuum.

So I do think that requires a new generation of leadership. And at the state level, it's a big part of why I'm stepping into what I see as a leadership vacuum.

So I do think that requires a new generation of leadership. And at the state level, it's a big part of why I'm stepping into what I see as a leadership vacuum.

Well, the truth is one of the paths is grow, grow, grow. It goes to that spirit that you talked about. That's where I think as a great leader of a state, you can at least help in that regard where if you're depressing economic growth, then your debt-to-GDP ratio becomes even worse because your GDP growth rates are lower.

Well, the truth is one of the paths is grow, grow, grow. It goes to that spirit that you talked about. That's where I think as a great leader of a state, you can at least help in that regard where if you're depressing economic growth, then your debt-to-GDP ratio becomes even worse because your GDP growth rates are lower.

Well, the truth is one of the paths is grow, grow, grow. It goes to that spirit that you talked about. That's where I think as a great leader of a state, you can at least help in that regard where if you're depressing economic growth, then your debt-to-GDP ratio becomes even worse because your GDP growth rates are lower.

So one of the areas to focus on is just robust economic growth through mass deregulation, through mass unlocking of private sector potential, through slashing and burning bureaucracy wherever necessary. And that's one positive side.

So one of the areas to focus on is just robust economic growth through mass deregulation, through mass unlocking of private sector potential, through slashing and burning bureaucracy wherever necessary. And that's one positive side.

So one of the areas to focus on is just robust economic growth through mass deregulation, through mass unlocking of private sector potential, through slashing and burning bureaucracy wherever necessary. And that's one positive side.

On the other side, though, Glenn, and you raise a good point here, I would just say there are ways to rationalize the budget that actually lift people up in the process. I'll give you one example, and I'm going to lead the way here in Ohio on this front, is reattaching work requirements to welfare, Medicaid, and other forms of aid. I think it is not compassion.

On the other side, though, Glenn, and you raise a good point here, I would just say there are ways to rationalize the budget that actually lift people up in the process. I'll give you one example, and I'm going to lead the way here in Ohio on this front, is reattaching work requirements to welfare, Medicaid, and other forms of aid. I think it is not compassion.

On the other side, though, Glenn, and you raise a good point here, I would just say there are ways to rationalize the budget that actually lift people up in the process. I'll give you one example, and I'm going to lead the way here in Ohio on this front, is reattaching work requirements to welfare, Medicaid, and other forms of aid. I think it is not compassion.

It is cruelty to increase somebody's dependence on the government. The way we're going to save our country is not through greater dependence on the government, but independence from it. We're not victims. We have this victimhood mentality that then justifies that dependence. We're done with that victimhood culture. We got to move on. We're victors, not victims. We don't whine. We win.